Body Positivity Uncensored — Our 2026 Reset

Body Positivity Uncensored — Our 2026 Reset | Episode 226

In this episode of The Swing Nation Podcast, the top-rated podcast about non-monogamy and swinging, Dan and Lacy sit down for a real, no-BS conversation about something everyone thinks about but few talk about honestly — body positivity. And spoiler alert: it’s about a whole lot more than a number on a scale.

Dan and Lacy break down what body positivity really means to them, exploring how it shows up both physically and mentally, and how confidence, and emotional health play just as big of a role as appearance. Lacy opens up about navigating body image as a public figure and content creator on OnlyFans, while Dan shares his own perspective on self-worth and accountability.

They also talk about shifting the focus from looks to long-term health, sustainability, and showing up as your best self — not just for today, but for the future. From supporting each other to setting realistic goals, this episode is about growth, honesty, and holding yourself (and your partner) accountable as they head into 2026 and beyond feeling stronger, healthier, and more confident than ever.

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

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SPEAKER_05 0:22

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SPEAKER_06 1:17

Hey there, pineapple people, and welcome to the Swing Nation podcast. We are your host, Northern Guy and Southern Girl. And we are back with a full-length episode of the Swing Nation Podcast. Um, and we're here in 2026. Yeah. Um, and we're gonna do a a podcast that's a little different than what we normally do.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:39

Um, but it's completely relevant because this is what everybody's talking about in the new year. Yeah, right. Um, we're gonna talk a little bit about body positivity.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

Yes, right? And listen, we are no experts. I was Dan did a timeline like to kind of keep us on track, and I was reading over it and I'm like, shit, I need to hear all of these things. Like, these are very relevant to like where we are, because we're kind of in that like new year, new me sort of situation where we're like, shit, we gotta get our asses in shape, we gotta, you know, we need to be more confident, like all of the so like we are not here to like preach these things. We are here to remind you and ourselves that this is something we need to focus on.

SPEAKER_06 2:22

Well, we do this every year, right? I mean, I think every human being every year, right, starts the new year and they're like, all right, I'm gonna get in shape, I'm gonna, you know, get more confident, I'm gonna have more sex, I'm gonna whatever the thing is. This is the time of year that you're talking about it. And so we kind of just wanted to talk to you about our journey and where we're at, uh, and then maybe just you know, give you if we we're gonna give you some advice, um, you know, if you're thinking about these things, maybe some advice about ways to to think about it.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Yeah, also advice for ourselves because we need to think about it.

SPEAKER_06 2:56

Um, okay, so this is kind of the I labeled this the no BS version. Okay. And I kind of I kind of wanted to do no BS, right? Because I think, and here's what I mean by that, right? I think when we talk about boss uh body positivity, a lot of times what you get is oh, we should all just love the body we're in and just learn to love yourself and uh God, that's so much easier said than done, though, right? Well, and I think that is not wrong, yeah, right. But at the end of the day, I don't think there's something everybody has something about themselves that they do not like, right?

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Or they'd like to improve on that they'd like to improve on, right?

SPEAKER_06 3:39

And that's my point. And so I I think really if we're gonna talk bossy body positivity, and and if you are somebody that is complaining about something, and and this is I think even bigger than body positivity, you know. For I you, I know a lot of it mental health related, and and even me, I have some mental health uh things that that go on with me. And so I think if there's something about yourself that you want to make better, right, and you're complaining about it, but not doing anything to make it better, yeah, then then what the fuck are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Yeah, like I complain all the time that I uh have put on weight and I need to stop. And so it's like if I don't do anything, like what's the point? You know, like I need to get my ass up and like do something.

SPEAKER_02 4:22

Right.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Which I'm working on. I'm working on. Um, but yes, you're not wrong. It's hard to you shouldn't complain about it if you're not gonna do the work, you know, like just shut up and do the work to fix it.

SPEAKER_06 4:34

Right. So you you basically have two options, right? So if if you are looking at yourself, right? And it and I'm not even talking about just physically, but if you're looking at yourself mentally and you're like, hey, I have anxiety or I have depression, right? And or you're saying, hey, I think I need to lose weight, or you know, I think my ass is flabby, you know, whatever the thing you're picking your park, yourself apart for in your head, you have two options, right? You can either accept it for what it is and learn to love it. Because I think sometimes we do need to do that, right? Yeah, sometimes there are parts about us that we don't like and we just need to learn to accept it and love it, right? And I think there's steps you can, you know, like I think that is an active journey that you have to go on, right? I don't think you can just say, you know, well, we just did a Tuesday talk episode where a guy was talking about his dick size. Dick size is probably one of those things. If you are looking at yourself and saying, There's not much you can do to change it. Saying, you know, man, Dan, I really wish you had a bigger dick, you know, and I'm thinking this is me thinking in my own head, right? Well, there's not, there's not a whole lot. I mean, there's penis palms, there's surgeries, there's implants, like there are things, right? If you truly, if it's something that's in that is such a burden on you that it puts you in such a place that you need to fix it to order in order to live a happy life, there are things you can do, right? For the most part, those are some pretty extreme measures, right? So maybe you just have to learn to accept it, you know. Maybe you just have to, whether it's go to counseling, whether it's to talking to your partner, whatever the steps are, maybe you just have to learn to accept that thing. Um, but the other thing is if it's something you don't like, you either need to accept it or you need to do something about it.

SPEAKER_01 6:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 6:13

Right. And I think a lot of us where we get stuck at is I don't like my body. Uh I don't like that I'm chubby. I don't like, you know, I don't like that I have a like a beer gut. Like, you know, I don't when I gain weight, I don't gain it in my arms, I don't gain it in my legs. I gain it right here. Like I look like a pregnant person.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

That's where you feel like you have a beer gut, but you don't drink beer.

SPEAKER_06 6:34

Right. I don't drink beer. But if I eat too many snacks and cookies and crackers and chips, which is what I'd like to do at night is sit down, watch some TV or a movie, and I like to eat ice cream, I like to eat chips, I like to snack. And I'll sometimes like I'll get ready to go to bed and I'll be looking at the coffee table in front of me and I'll be like, there's a bowl of ice cream, there's a bag of chips, there's 13 fucking wrappers from Oreos. Like, gee, like Dan, what the fuck are you doing with your life? You know what I mean? Like I'll have to like yell at myself because I just sat there for the last hour and a half and ate 5,000 calories. You know what I mean? Just because I'm bored watching TV and like it's like something to do, right? But so if me, Dan, doesn't like my beer gut, I need to do something about that, right? I need to stop eating snacks every freaking night. I need to get up and go for a run or a walk or go to a gym.

SPEAKER_01 7:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:24

Um, I think there's so many, but so many people will complain about the thing they don't like about themselves, but never actually take the step to do something about it.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

Yeah. No, I completely agree.

SPEAKER_06 7:34

Uh, and and I think that can apply to not only to mental health as well.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

No, I I think of like I've been struggling pretty bad with my mental health over the years. And something, I think after my dad died in 2025, something just clicked with me. And I was like, okay, I've got to figure this out because I'm making myself miserable, I'm making the people around me miserable. It's time to take it back. And so I, you know, got a doctor that would help with my prescriptions. I started counseling, and it's been like uh it's January. I started this in July. So we're talking about six, seven month journey. And I, you know, and honestly, before that, I was just like kind of what you're saying. I was just, I'm like, well, I I have anxiety and I don't know what to do, and I don't know how to make it better. And, you know, it finally like at some point I had to like do something or shut the fuck up, you know? And so I think it kindly kind of finally came ahead this past year, and it's really I made it a priority for me, my mental health. And I've been very proud of myself for doing that. And so, like, hopefully I can continue that on into the new year. And I mean, obviously that's still important to keep continue that, but also other things as well.

SPEAKER_06 8:46

Yeah, no, and I and it's a hundred percent, you know, look. So I was diagnosed with with PTSD, and one of the things that you know PTSD triggers, well, it can be a lot of things, right? But but some of it's like angry outbursts and stuff like that, right? And so if that's what's happening, like if you're coming to me about whatever the thing might be, right? Like, hey Dan, can you take out the trash?

SPEAKER_01 9:06

And I'm like, fuck you, like you know, like blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_06 9:08

It's like, and then you're like, well, why are you yelling at me? And I'm like, oh, well, I have PTSD. Well, that's not okay. You know what I mean? Like me yelling at you at you is not that's not okay behavior, right? And so if the PTSD is a problem and it's creating problems in our relationship, I can't just say, like, oh, well, I have this thing and I I wish there, you know, I wish I I wish I didn't, but I do, and there's nothing I can do about it. No, bullshit. Like, there is something you can do about that. Like, if you have that, you can go talk to a therapist, you can work on yourself, you can, you know, they'll teach you ways to, you know, when you have these feelings and emotions, how you can cope with them and and you know, ways that you can kind of get down off the ledge so that you're not, you know, yelling at people and screaming at people. Like, so there are is a process you can take if there's something that you identify that you need to work on. You just saying like, this is a problem I have, and not doing anything about that problem is is it's not okay. Yeah, it's not okay for for me, but it's also not okay for the people around you and stuff like that. If it's if what you're you're dealing with is affecting people around you, it's also not okay for them. They shouldn't have to be treated poorly just because you were dealing with mental health issues either, right? Like, so you you know, I think those things should be worked on either together or as individuals so that you can get better at that. And we see we see this in a lot of relationships. I mean, we have several friends that you know they're going through these cycles where they'll they'll get in a fight, right? And it's I didn't, I'm not there's nobody in particular I'm thinking of, right? But it's if anything, maybe my parents, right? My dad used to drink a lot, right? My parents would fight all the time. And it was you could almost set your watch to it, right? The weekend would come, my dad would start drinking, my parents would get in a fight. And it happened time and time again, right? And my mom would go to my dad and say, You need to work, uh, you're an asshole, quit drinking, you know, and they do this, and it would go for on for years and years and years until eventually they ended up divorced, right? But if you're in that cycle, the only way to fix that is, hey, I have a drinking problem, or hey, we have a relationship problem. Let's go to marriage. Like, you have to break outside of that cycle to do something about the problem if you just keep reliving it over and over and over again. You know what they say, they like they say like the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome, like that's where you're stuck in. It it's time, now that we're talking about the new year, to do something about it.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:27

Um, all right. So I here in my notes, I got uh body positivity equals um respecting your your body enough to do the work. And I I think that is true, right? So if instead of saying love who you are and and don't change anything, just learn to love yourself as you are. I think and I think at some point that's okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:48

If if if you were in a spot where you want to be, which but most of us aren't, right?

SPEAKER_00 11:52

Well, yeah, I would say that personally I've always struggled with my body, and which I think people, because I see the comments that people write on like our social media posts and stuff. I think some people would look at me and say, What the fuck is wrong with you? You know? And I look back at pictures of myself from like two years ago or a year ago or however many, and I'm like, I was in the room freaking out, not wanting to walk out because I in that outfit or in that bathing suit or whatever. So I thought I looked terrible. Then, like two years later, I look at that picture and I'm like, I looked beautiful. What the fuck was wrong with me?

SPEAKER_06 12:29

Or I wish I still looked like that, right?

SPEAKER_00 12:31

Yes. Um, and so that's something that I've really struggled with. I've actually gotten shit for lack of a better word, because of like they say you should not be on social media if you can't handle the criticism, you know.

SPEAKER_06 12:44

Well, who can handle the criticism?

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Um, but that, you know, I don't know how to manufacture that, you know. And I you think about, I guess the best way I can like describe it is think back when you 20, you look at a picture from your early 20s, and you're like, fuck, if I look like that now, you know, if I had that little waist, that's kind of how I feel. And I the last year or so, I've really, really tried to lean into just loving the body that I'm in, uh, just accepting who I am. And, you know, do I want to be skinnier? Yes. Am I trying to be a little thinner? Yes. But I also like want to enjoy my life and love the body that I'm in. So that's like a double-edged sword, you know. So, like, how do you have body confidence and actively want to change it? You know, so that's something that I've personally struggled with that hasn't come easy to me.

SPEAKER_06 13:41

No, uh well, you know, I think the truth of this is just like everything else, it's an ever moving thing, right? Like there's not like, and I think that's when we think about like body goals or we think about um, you know, confidence. Uh, you know, we think, okay, and I I've heard even you say this, right? You think, okay, if I can get to 120 pounds, yeah, I will be so confident and I will feel so sexy. Yeah, and that's the goal, right? If I can get there, everything will be perfect, right? And then you get there, and then there's something else you don't want to do.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

Or you like you've lost volume in your face, so you feel like you look old or whatever. And I've, as I've gotten older, I'm 41, as I've gotten older, this is something that I very much have realized. And anybody that comes to me and says, I'm getting my boobs done, or I'm getting a tummy tuck, or I'm getting whatever, I always say have this same thing. Uh, what I've learned is when you fix one thing, whether it be you lose 20 pounds or you get a boob job or you change the color of your hair, it just unlocks another insecurity. And so I've tried really, really hard over the last few years to just be okay in my skin and not look for a validation from one of those things. Um, that doesn't mean I don't want one of those. I might, I might still want a boob job, but I don't think that boob job is gonna fix all my problems. Where in the past, I'd be like, when I get new titties, nobody can say nothing. Um they're gonna be perky, they're gonna be beautiful, I'm gonna have so much confidence, you know. But what I've learned is I get the new boobs and then I have a scar, or they're swollen, or they haven't settled, you know, or they're like a little hard, takes a little. So I've learned that like it just it doesn't fix it doesn't, it doesn't fix everything like we think it does. And it took me getting two boob jobs and a BBL to kind of learn that.

SPEAKER_06 15:38

Right.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

Unfortunately.

SPEAKER_06 15:40

Well, even after the boob job, you're never gonna be a hundred percent satisfied with the results you get from any plastic surgery, right? Because it's just you're never gonna get new boobs or a new ass or a tummy tuck. You're never gonna look at it and be like, oh my god, it's perfect. Yeah, you're gonna pick apart, like, oh, I got this scar here, or I have a lump here, or oh, these they're not quite as perky as I was hoping they were gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

Like, there's something or I wish they were bigger or whatever. I think there's always going to be something. And so just it's okay to do that something, and it's okay to like want to fix the something or work on the something, but I think knowing like that it's gonna be okay regardless. Like, for instance, I have fibrosis in my stomach from my BBL. I am pretty self conscious about it. Just for the record, I am. Um, and sometimes I'm like, fuck it, I don't care. And other times I'm like, well, I should cover my, you know, I should wear something that covers my stomach. And honestly, could I go and have it fixed now? Yeah. It's been two years since I had surgery. I, you know, I could probably but like I am like afraid that that's just gonna happen again. It's gonna unlock something else, you know. And I would learn to just be okay with where I am at, then have something else I was insecure about. So I'm just trying to learn to like sit with it and be okay.

SPEAKER_06 17:03

Yeah. Well, and I think that's kind of what we were talking about, right? So you have two choices, right? You either do something about it or you learn to accept it. Like those are really at the end of the day, your your only two choices. So, like for you, your the fibrosis in your stomach, you either have to learn to love it or you have to work to make it better, right? And in this case, really the only way to make it better would be having another surgery. And then if you have that surgery, okay, you know, learning lessons from the last one is oh, maybe I need to watch my salt intake, or you know, maybe those belly boards and all that stuff. I gotta make sure I wear those all the time and you know, do in and do it.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

But I could still do everything right and I can still it can still happen again.

SPEAKER_06 17:39

Just like it is right now, right? And then you're kind of back at zero.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

And so to be honest with you, I'll probably fix it at some point, but I'm also just trying to learn to accept it until I get to the point where I'm mentally okay with changing it.

SPEAKER_06 17:51

But that's the right mentality, I think, going into a surgery. You know, if you if at some point you're like, okay, you know, there's nothing I can really do. I can't go to the gym and do more crunches and fix this. I need to go have surgery to fix it. But I'm going into this surgery knowing that my results probably aren't gonna be perfect, right? I'm gonna do everything I can to get make get the best results, but they're probably not gonna be perfect. And I need to, I need to mentally accept that or expect that going into this. That's probably a very different place than going into a surgery thinking that the outcome is gonna be perfect.

SPEAKER_00 18:21

Yeah, and I don't think people really think, oh, it it's gonna be perfect. You don't even realize that's what you're doing. You just think when you get this and when I like a guy, when I get a six pack, all the bitches are gonna come, all the ladies are gonna love me. I'm gonna be fucking everybody. Then you get a six pack, and then you're self-conscious about something else. So now you're like worried about your dick size or what you know, like I think it's always there always is going to be something that we focus on. So realize like I think having like awareness enough to realize that this is something that I am worried about and like addressing it within your own, like in-house, like in your brain, you know, work on it internally and then work on the outside too. You know, I think it's okay to do both.

SPEAKER_06 19:12

Yeah. No, I and I think, you know, this is with the notes here, respecting your body, uh, you know, body positivity is really respecting your body enough to do the work to get to where you want to be. Yeah. Right. And I think that, like you're saying, it's it's mental and physical work is, you know, if you're trying to lose weight, well, you getting up and going to the gym every day, is that loving your body? Yeah. Right. If it's, you know, you trying to work on your anxiety and stuff, well, you actually making the appointments to go see a therapist, showing up to those appointments, you know, when you do talk to the therapist, actually telling, you know, like being completely open and honest to the therapist about what the things are that are bothering you. You know, I I know so many uh people, even myself, like uh, as I was getting out of the army, uh, they made me go see a therapist because I, you know, I've been in combat and all these things, and that was like one of the check marks you had to get checked off, right? So I went to the therapist and and you know, they were like, Oh, well, you know, you know, they have you fill out this little, do you have this, do you have this? Do you wake up in the night? Do you think about bad things? You know, all this checklist that you check off, right? And then I had I so I go through all that, and they're like, Okay, you have PTSD, and now we want you to go to counseling. So I go to the counselor, and like one of the first things the counselor said to me is, okay, we're gonna do this like once I don't know if it was once a month or every two weeks or whatever it was. And she's like, I I want to do, I can't remember what she called it, but it was like traumatic exposure therapy or something. And what she wanted me to do is tell her about all the most traumatic things that I'd ever been through so that we could like work through it, right? That was the last time I ever went to a fucking therapist, right? Because I was like, fuck that. Like I am not, you know, and but that's probably wrong. Like, I'm I'm I'm probably not right for that, right? I probably need to go back to a therapist, I probably need to do the things they wanted me to do so that I can actually heal that part of me that that that you know.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Well, it's hard to go through those things, you know. Just like it's hard to do things.

SPEAKER_06 21:01

I'm not going back, right? Yeah, but you're right. It's just like that, it's hard, right? And I'm I did not want to relive those experiences, so I just avoided it. And just like you're saying, going to the gym fucking sucks. You know, I was in the army for 20 years. Every day I had to get up, I had to go, and I had to go run and I had to go work out. For 20 years, there was not one time I was running that I was ever like, this is amazing and fun and great. For 20 fucking years, every time I started running, I was like, God, this sucks. Yeah, and I that's what I thought in my head until I stopped running. And so, but if if you want to be skinny, if you want to be in shape, if you want to be, you know, if you want to be uh able to go fight in wars, you know, or whatever the thing is, you gotta put in that work, uh, even though it it sucks and it's not fun.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

Yeah, I totally agree.

SPEAKER_06 21:48

All right, I think now's the perfect time to take a little break and hear from the partners and sponsors of the Swing Nation podcast. Then we'll get back. Let's talk a little bit more at body positivity, but kind of how it applies to the lifestyle. Okay. All right, we'll be right back, guys. Lacey, one thing I don't leave home without when going to a swinger event is my ED medication.

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That is correct.

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It is.

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Yeah.

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SPEAKER_00 22:55

Yeah.

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You should have pretty much switched to that, haven't you?

SPEAKER_06 23:02

That's basically what I use all the time now. Yeah. So if you're looking for ED medication, if you're new to the lifestyle uh and you're going to an event, you might want to get some and have it just handy in case you need it, kind of thing.

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SPEAKER_01 24:32

I agree.

SPEAKER_06 24:32

Uh, and part of being a responsible swinger is getting tested on a regular basis.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 24:38

Now, something I didn't know is not all STI, STD testing is the same.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

That is correct.

SPEAKER_06 24:45

Not every family doctor fully understands how you should be getting tested.

SPEAKER_00 24:49

That is correct. What one doctor thinks is a full panel, another doctor may have a completely different version of that.

SPEAKER_06 24:56

And being somebody in the lifestyle and engaging with multiple partners, um, what you should be getting tested for is probably if you're not telling your doctor that, what you should be getting tested for is probably different than what they're thinking in their head.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

Yeah, because they don't know your lifestyle. Or, or even if they do know your lifestyle, there's a like, for instance, there is a new one called MGen. And we just recently met a doctor at a lifestyle party and said that she had never even heard about it. And so she was awesome that we had educated her on that. So a lot of these doctors don't they don't know it all.

SPEAKER_06 25:30

Right. So if you are going to participate in the lifestyle, you probably need to get tested from people that are meant to do this. Yes. Um, so we use I Know My Status. It's the same people behind talent testing who are the it's a company that tests all the porn stars. So they're used to testing people that um engage with multiple partners, they know all the latest on what STIs are you know coming up and and spreading, and they they track all the stats. I mean, they they know how to test people for STIs. They're the experts.

SPEAKER_00 26:03

They are. And if someone that you engage with, you know, if they have used I know my status, they can actually give you a QR code and you can scan it and you can see their results right on your phone so you can confirm everything that they're telling you.

SPEAKER_06 26:17

Yeah, 100%. So please, if you're getting tested, get tested the right way. We recommend using I Know My Status. You can go to theswing nation.info, recommended apps and products, scroll down to the I Know My Status icon, and you can get a discount off your first test. Um, but please, if you're being uh if you're swinging, if you're engaging with people in the community, please be safe about it. Go get tested.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

Yeah, because we want you to fuck like a porn star for sure. Dan, so when we're doing the podcast, a lot of times we'll tell the listeners we are filming our content for OnlyFans, right? So how do they find that content if they want to see like the videos that go along with the stories?

SPEAKER_06 27:00

Yeah, so that's a that's a great question. So you are correct. We do film for OnlyFans. We, you know, when we're uh going to clubs and events, we talk about sometimes, oh, we we did OnlyFans with So and So. Uh so if they're interested in that, they can go to theswing nation.info uh and they'll they'll see right there on the front page uh a link to your OnlyFans. We are running promos. We are uh and it could be anywhere from 50 to 80 percent off uh right now.

SPEAKER_04 27:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:27

Um so I think right now it's 80% off. So you'd have to, you know, go grab that right away. But if you like watching Orgies, if you like watching threesomes, if they want to see you uh take DVP, they want to see how big of a dirty slut you actually are, they can see all that right on your OnlyFans page. Uh, we kind of call it it's like another tier of education.

SPEAKER_00 27:48

No, I was about to say that because I think like if you go to some of these major porn sites and you type in like swinging, you're going to find some things, and it it's usually not very good, let's be real. We actually will get and we try to get as many orgies on camera as we can because a lot of people that are joining the lifestyle, they want to see us do a full swap with a couple or they want to see us engage in an orgy. And these are the same people that we will have orgies with at the swinger club. With obviously without the cameras, we just kind of recreate it, you know, at opportunities that we can film. So if you're thinking about joining the lifestyle and you're like, man, I need to know, I need to see like how they're navigating this. Our OnlyFans can be kind of educational, if you ask me.

SPEAKER_06 28:36

I agree. So go over to theswing nation.info, click that blue and white button, and uh go sign up today. Yeah, check it out. We appreciate you guys. All right, guys, welcome back, welcome back. All right, we're talking all things, new years, body positivity. Um, we're trying to have an honest conversation about it, right? I think a lot of there's lots of like catchphrases, and I think there's lots of what go what you're supposed to say and what is you're not supposed to say. Uh I think we just are saying whatever comes to our head. Yeah. And to be fair, we're not counselors, we're not nutritionists, we're not body coaches, we're not health coaches. We're two people that are, I think, negotiating the lifestyle and probably think about our bodies as it relates specifically to swinging in the lifestyle quite a bit. Um, you know, Lacey has an OnlyFans page. Her body gets posted naked seven days a week, 365 days a year.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

That's me.

SPEAKER_06 29:32

Um, and so body positivity is something I think that, or or body image, self-image, whatever you want to call it, is something that we talk about a lot.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

Yeah, I think it's just something that we're aware of. And I don't think that we're unique here because we have a podcast on OnlyFans. I think the lifestyle is very uh we're aware of what we look like. Let's be honest. We're aware of what we look like, we're aware of what we bring to the table. Um, and I think like somebody that's actively, even in monogamous situations, somebody that's actively dating is trying to put their best foot forward. And I think the lifestyle also kind of puts us back in that mindset. Like we want to like present our best self possible. Uh and so I think that's I think I personally think that's good. I think I've seen people talk negatively about the lifestyle as far as that. They say it's uh like a surface level, like people get pressure for the lifestyle to like have plastic surgery or lose weight or whatever. I think in I've I've heard a lot of that. And honestly, I just I think human beings want what they don't have. I think that's definitely part of it. And I think we are seeing each other naked and it's encouraging us to kind of put our best foot forward. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. It kind of keeps me on my P's and Q's. Does that make sense? Because if it wasn't, if I didn't think I in April I was gonna be around secrets walking around naked, I probably wouldn't give a shit if I had a little bit of a tummy. Because like in regular clothes, nobody cares. But if I know I'm gonna be like naked in front of people, I'm gonna try a little, you know? So I don't think that's bad.

SPEAKER_06 31:15

Right. No, I I think that's true. You know, it is funny, right? So if you look at people that are monogamous, right? It seems to be, and and I'm guilty of this when I was in a monogamous relationship, right? You you date at a young age, you get married, and then the longer you're married, the more you let yourself go, the less sex you have, right? Uh, and then a lot of monogamous couples end up getting divorced.

SPEAKER_00 31:44

Or cheating or whatever.

SPEAKER_06 31:46

And it's because we're not having enough sex and I'm not attracted to you anymore.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

We're not putting our relationships first. I mean, that's a lot of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:53

And this other young, younger, hotter girls giving me whatever the case may be, right? Like it's like a self-destructing um, you know, system that we're in.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:03

Um part of where the lifestyle is different is we are always we're like you said, we're actively dating all of the time. Yeah. Like it's you know, so think about how you felt in high school or maybe in college, and you were, you know, before you met your your partner and you you got married, you you were going to the gym and working out. It's fine.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

You're putting forth an effort. And to be honest with you, at different phases of the lifestyle, that effort could be a lot, you know. Like in the beginning, when you first did a lifestyle, you're like, fuck, I need a six pack. All these dudes got six packs, I want to look hot, or all these girls have, you know, flat tummies. I want to look, you know, so you like bust your ass. And I think like we've had parts of the lifestyle where we've put on a little way, and then we're like, oh no, we got to tone up. So I think it kind of comes and goes. But I totally think that that's it. And I like the lifestyle for that. So I think people give it a bad rap, but personally, I like it. I like that, I like that aspect of it.

SPEAKER_06 33:01

I think being motivated to put always put your best self forward is a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

For sure.

SPEAKER_06 33:06

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 33:07

It's good for not only your person your relationship with your partner, your spouse, it's also good for when you're trying to get people to fuck you at a lifestyle event.

SPEAKER_06 33:17

Uh okay, so on that note though, what so when you think about like guys that you're attracted to, right? So if I was to say, Lacey, when you go to a swingers party or swingers club or whatever, what are you most attracted to? What would you say?

SPEAKER_00 33:32

Um, I what I say is I like a little bit of everything, and that's why I'm in the lifestyle. I don't want like a perfect guy with a perfect body and the perfect hair and the perfect dick and stuff like that. I that's not what the lifestyle is about for me. It's about the variety. You know, I can get, I honestly enjoy a dad bod probably more than the guy with the six packs and stuff like that. Like I am not looking for Mr. Perfect. I'm not looking for the guy that I'm gonna take home and meet my family or my friends. I'm looking for the the guy that's gonna provide me with the best time for the night. And and whatever that looks like, it can be very, very different. You know, as long as you have good hygiene, that you take care of yourself, you know, that you're you're putting your best foot forward, that's really all and you have a good, funny personality, that's really what I'm there looking for. It's not really physical, which is the opposite of kind of everything that we've said, but it's honestly true.

SPEAKER_06 34:35

Well, and this is what I always find interesting, and kind of why I brought it up to you, is because I think when it comes to body positivity, the our body matters most to us.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

And nobody else. Yeah. You know, there's this guy that keeps commenting on all of our TikToks, and he says, Well, my chubby wife have my wife's a little chubby. Will she be accepted at the parties? And every time I see it, I comment and I'm like, first of all, quit calling your fucking wife chubby. And second of all, some guys love a full or figured woman. Some guys don't want a tiny, like, there is somebody there for everybody. And and I tell this all the time that at no point I have been 30 pounds lighter. I'm probably at my heaviest right now, I'll be real. I haven't been much heavier than I am, but I have been a significant amount smaller than I am now. At no point has somebody ever looked at me and said, I don't want to fuck you because you're you're chubby.

SPEAKER_04 35:36

Right.

SPEAKER_00 35:37

Or or or fuller figured or whatever. Guys are just happy to fuck.

SPEAKER_04 35:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:42

They're just happy to be there. You know, like as long as you take care of yourself, I think that's really, and you're like a fun, you have a cool vibe. I think that's what it's about.

SPEAKER_06 35:50

All right. And so it is it is interesting that really body confidence, you know, we think we need to work on our bodies so that we can go out and get laid and and and you know, you're gonna get laid regardless attract the opposite sex. Um, and you know, and maybe for guys, and this is you know, something maybe we can talk about women in the lifestyle seem to take better care of themselves than men in the lifestyle as far as like physical appearance goes. Um, and I don't know if that's a cultural thing, if that we hold women to different beauty standards than we do men, and so women tend to then adhere, you know, to care more about each other.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Women are in competition with each other, not even realizing it. I think we want to have the best outfit, we want to have the best hair, and we want to look our best. So we're not really dressing for men or dressing for other women, or at least I am. I mean, like, I want the guys to think I'm sexy, but I want the girls to be like, where the fuck do you get that outfit? That's hot. You know, like we are like wanting to put our best foot forward, not because we're like, I mean, at the end of the day, the guys are gonna want to fuck regardless.

SPEAKER_06 36:58

If it's a she now you're trying to impress other women, yeah. And and that's because I don't know. You want them to be jealous? No, no, you just want to be impressed.

SPEAKER_00 37:09

I just I like seeing other girls, I like when a girl walks out and impresses me. So I want to do that. I don't, I don't know. It's not, it's I it's hard for me to explain. Maybe women, you can if you're listening to this, you can chime in via something. But I I I don't really think we're dressing for men at swinger parties or prime. I mean, like, don't get me wrong. I want a man to think I'm hot and sexy and stuff like that. But they're it doesn't really matter what outfit I have on, they don't really care.

SPEAKER_06 37:38

Do you think women are more judgmental of other women than men are of women?

SPEAKER_00 37:42

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_06 37:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:44

Women are more judgmental of ourselves than men are of the women. I think men are just happy the women are there. They're just happy, like we could walk out in a $5 sheen outfit and they would know no different. They just are happy that you're there and in something sexy. I just it's it's not about that. As long as you smell good and you have sexy clothes on and you want to fuck them, they're good. They're happy.

SPEAKER_06 38:07

And do you find um that confidence in people is more matters more necessarily than like their body?

SPEAKER_00 38:17

Like somebody that's comes across as confident and sexier than it doesn't matter if they're I've seen people like it's secrets and heto and stuff that are not your traditional, what we would traditionally say is like a sexy body type, but they're out there on the dance floor having the best time and living very carefree and just very much in the moment. And I have been very jealous of how awesome they look and how awesome they feel, and I I envy that.

SPEAKER_06 38:47

Um, yeah, and I I think that's true, even with women. Uh, you know, this is the thing, and I I joke about this all the time, but it's actually true. When we go to swinger events and parties, I'm attracted to 80% of the women that are there, right? Which is a pretty a pretty large number. You're probably well, if you had to put a number on the percentage of men that are at these events that you're attracted to, can you put roughly a number on that?

SPEAKER_00 39:11

20 to 30 percent. Right.

SPEAKER_06 39:12

So it's it's like the opposite, right? So I'm attracted to if we walk into a room, 80% of the women that are in that room, I'm like, I would totally fuck her. You're attracted to 20%. So that already narrows our pool quite substantially, right? And then, but then even of that 20%, it's more of their energy, their vibe.

SPEAKER_00 39:31

For sure, like it could go up quickly if I just get to know you. Well, yours is the opposite. Yours will probably go down as you get to know them.

SPEAKER_06 39:40

Yeah, if you walk up to me and you start talking to me and just saying dumb things, like you're you're gonna lose me at some point, right? Yeah, uh, but but even then I might make an exception, but uh but I definitely think it is confidence. And then I I think another thing that men maybe um miss the that don't understand is you need to feel like comfortable, yeah. To be attracted to a guy if you feel like he's creepy or if you feel like you don't trust him, or it's hard for you to be attracted to him.

SPEAKER_00 40:13

Yeah. No, I agree, and it's not even something that I think about, it's just something that kind of happens, if that makes sense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:21

Uh okay, I do have a question for you because I this is something that I've struggled with in in relationships in the past, right? So how do you if I am starting to get a beer gut and maybe let myself go, and you as my partner see that, how do you tell me that without hurting my feelings?

SPEAKER_00 40:47

Uh you and I kind of just say what we gotta say. Um, so I don't know that we're like what you do to me is you're like, we should really get to the gym together. We should do this together.

SPEAKER_06 41:00

We you know Is that not a good way to do it?

SPEAKER_00 41:02

No, I mean I think that's the best thing you could do. Honestly, I don't think there's a good way to say. Um, luckily, we kind of have always been like usually we're heavier together. Like, think during 2020, during COVID, like we look at our wedding pictures, we're both heavy. Like we've kind of like sort of because honestly, when one of us is doing well, the other, because we're kind of like a package, you know, so I think we kind of like stick together. So I I think that's the best way is doing even if you are in the best shape of your life and like maybe you're saying, let's do this together. I I don't know. What would you say? What would how sh how can I tell you? I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 41:40

Well, I think I think you could just straight up tell me. But I think I'm not as sensitive as as you are.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

I'm very sensitive to the weight.

SPEAKER_06 41:48

I would struggle with that. Like, how do I tell you, other than hey, I we I think we need to do more of this and more of that. Um, but I also know with you, you're pretty self-accountable to that stuff. I I think you probably beat yourself up about your weight more than but then I would. Yeah. Um, but I do feel like the lifestyle is a team sport. Um and and so I do think helping ourselves each other be accountable is is important. Um I'm just not so sure of how do you relay that to your partner without without offending them, you know.

SPEAKER_00 42:25

I d I don't know. I think you kind of have to offend them. If if you but I guess like if you come at it like a health standpoint, like I'm worried about your health, like your blood pressure's high, we need to like let's start walking at night. We've even talked about like walking just for our relationship, like going for a mile walk at night and like because we have to put our phones down and we're just walking and we're just talking to each other. So, I mean, you could you could do it something around that. I mean, I don't I don't I don't know how you do it without hurting somebody's feelings.

SPEAKER_06 42:56

Yeah. No, and I it's for me also.

SPEAKER_00 42:59

Can I say something? I didn't interrupt you. Also, if I'm gonna lose weight or get myself in shape or or work on my mental health, that's something that I have to decide. So, like you can tell me you need to do it, but until it's the same with drinking, same with any any bad habits, you know, until I fully am ready to do it, it doesn't matter if you say something or not. You know, like I have to mentally be ready to make the changes. And that's not something that somebody else can put on me.

SPEAKER_06 43:31

No, I agree. And I so if you know, as we're entering this new year, you know, I've been thinking a lot about health and in our health. And not even not so much from a I want to be in shape so that girls want to fuck me standpoint. Um, I really, you know, we just hit 40, right? We just turned 41 years old. Um I recently spent four hours on the ground and couldn't get up because I slipped the disc in my back. Uh, you know. We're aging and I really look at health now differently than I did when I was younger and in the military. I think when I was, you know, my 20s, it was all about can I get big biceps? Can I get abs? Can I be jacked? And yeah, do girls want to fuck me? Like I think that's a young man's like why you want to be healthy. Um, as I've got older, I'm looking at it as I want to still be able to do the things that I want to do when I'm 60. Yeah. When I'm 70. Shit, maybe even when I'm 80. You know, when we go on these cruises, when we go to the re these resorts, and I see these people that are in their 70s and 80s, and they're they're doing things, you know, they're out on the dance floor, they're, you know swimming and you know what it's jumping in and swimming through the caves with us and doing all these things. I'm like, damn, that dude is 83 years old. Like so I think now that like I want I want to live the longest and most full life that I can.

SPEAKER_01 44:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 44:54

And I know that our health is gonna play a big role in that.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

For sure.

SPEAKER_06 44:59

So I for my take is like, let's get that shit right now so that we can live the longest, most fulfilled life that we can.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

Yeah, no, I agree. Um, I've even gotten to where, you know, I I'm currently gonna, I I've my face is very round right now. Let's be real. Um, I'm heavier now than I have ever probably, maybe when I gave birth, I don't know. But um I um I'm currently kind of in that, like I want to like, I I need to lose a little weight in my face. I don't like the way my face looks right now. Um, but my body, I don't necessarily hate my body. I just I feel like a little weight off of me would make me like be able to move and like and do all the fun things that I want to do. But like I'm not trying to be like a size two or four or even six, you know. Like I curve, I love my curves and I I enjoy also enjoy drinking a Dr. Pepper or having a slice of pizza after we fuck, and I don't want to change that, but I so but I can change it a little so that way I can still do those things. So that's kind of where I'm at. Like, and that I think that goes back to the first part of the podcast where I'm kind of in this like learning to love myself. That doesn't mean that I don't need to tweak and adjust things here or there, but overall, I don't hate the body that I'm in and I'm appreciative of the body that allows me to go and do all the things that we do, but just be to be mindful of kind of where we are and not let it get out of control.

SPEAKER_06 46:34

No, no, I agree. Well, and you know, I again I think long-term health to me at this point is probably my biggest focus. Like you're saying, not so much like you know, even if I have a little bit of a dad bod, I'm not worried about, oh, I want to have abs so that girls want to fuck me.

SPEAKER_00 46:51

Yeah. Um, but I am worried about, you know, you want to be able to fuck all night, so you gotta get the cardio.

SPEAKER_06 46:57

I want to have my cardio down. I want to make sure my blood, I don't have a heart attack while I'm fucking. Yeah. I want to make sure I can still, you know, like my doctor's not gonna say, Dan, you can't have any more Viagra because your blood pressure is, you know, too high or too low or whatever the case may be. Uh, you know, it's those kind of things that I I think about. It's I want to make sure. Well, and that, you know, like you're saying, you know, when we go to on a bliss cruise and we're on some island, if we want to go for a walk or go walk down the beach, that I can physically do those things, um, especially with my back, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 47:28

Yeah, your back is definitely my back bothers me.

SPEAKER_06 47:30

There's sometimes I I can't barely stand, you know what I mean? Like for long periods of time. I want to be able to be on the dance floor for hours at a time, and I want to be able to fuck for hours at a time, you know. Um, so uh to me it's those things. So I it's not so much about the vainness of looking, you know, jacked and healthy. It's more about it.

SPEAKER_00 47:50

But you do kind of want to look a little jacked.

SPEAKER_06 47:52

A little jacked, yeah. Just a little, not like super jacked.

SPEAKER_00 47:54

It's just like I want to lose a little weight so I feel better, like in my own skin. But that doesn't mean that I don't love the skin that I'm in. And I think two things can be true at the same time. And I think the lifestyle is like a really good place to kind of keep us in that, you know, kind of like it keeps us honest. It keeps us kind of where we need to be. And I think some people are one extreme or the other, but I definitely I appreciate the lifestyle for having me learn to love my body, have me learn, you know, that that all bodies are accepted, and and that honestly it doesn't matter what you look like, there's somebody there that's gonna want to fuck you, you know? And so it's just like learning to love what you what you're working with and what you have, and that's okay.

SPEAKER_06 48:42

No, I agree. I agree with all that. Um, yeah. So I think I mean I think it's a couple things. I think you gotta if you love yourself, loving yourself is really putting in the work to be the healthiest version of yourself that you can be.

SPEAKER_00 48:57

And that doesn't that goes for mental health, physical health, I mean all the things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:01

And and that's you know, I think it goes back to the I think sometimes we teach people you should just love yourself as you are, right? Where I think loving yourself means doing that like inner reflection and saying, like, okay, who do you want to be? And and to be that person, what do you have to do to get there?

SPEAKER_01 49:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:24

And then doing the work to get there. And that's not tied to a weight, that's not tied to a heart.

SPEAKER_00 49:30

That could be like, that could be like even such things of lifestyle, like, are you somebody that's really struggling with jealousy? You know, you at some point you have to like look at yourself and be like internal and be like, is this something that I want to do? Is this something, you know, it's like all of those things. So this is way more than like what the scale says. This is like your mental health, your your health in your relationship, your body's health. It's just all the things that kind of like sum it all up. Because you could be the hottest girl in the room, but if you're jealous every time your husband touches another girl and shows your ass, that that's not fun either. So I just think this all kind of it's like a lot of things of kind of like presenting our best self. You know, like when we show up at a party, we're like, here I am, these are all the things that I have to offer. And it it goes way beyond what you look like and what outfit you have on.

SPEAKER_06 50:18

Right. And I think at the end of the day, it's a personal accountability thing, right? Yeah. So once you look at yourself and you say, okay, Dan, who's your what do you want to, your what's your ideal Dan, right? If I could, if I could make a uh AI dan or something that was gonna be like the perfect version of me, what would that look like? Yeah, right. And and then then stride to be that person, yeah. Then then how do I set goals on how, okay, that's who I want to be, and how do I get to that?

SPEAKER_04 50:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 50:51

And then loving yourself is then doing the work to get to who you w want to be. And then I think the third part of that is knowing that you're probably never gonna get there, right? This is like you're you're always it's a constant journey to that place.

SPEAKER_00 51:08

I think it's always evolving, you know, like because like right now, personally, I've got my mental health in a much better place than it was. So now I'm focusing on like my physical body, you know, I've got my hormones in check. So now I'm focusing on like the way my clothes fit and stuff like that. And so I think it should always be changing, it should always be evolving, and it can be more than one thing at one time, right?

SPEAKER_06 51:32

And we're we always talk about like lifestyle's a journey, right? And I think your your body positivity or is a journey. And I think you never you're never gonna get to the the ultimate end.

SPEAKER_00 51:44

There's always gonna be something that we want to fix. Right.

SPEAKER_06 51:46

So you're constantly journeying, right? And so you're constantly trying to improve, you're trying to constantly look at like how can I get better, how can I, you know, uh what can I do for myself to make it better? Um, realizing that you're gonna make mistakes and you're gonna fall down and you're gonna have to pick yourself back up and you're gonna set goals and sometimes you're gonna stick to them, and then sometimes you're not. Yeah, you're gonna gain light weight, you're gonna lose weight. It you're on a journey to get there. But I guess the point is you need to you need to be in the game, right? Yeah. I think too many people just quit and sit on the sidelines and then complain that they're not where they want to be.

SPEAKER_00 52:24

Yeah, I completely agree.

SPEAKER_06 52:26

And I I think we meet me and you do it all the time.

SPEAKER_00 52:28

Yeah, we're working progress.

SPEAKER_06 52:30

We sit around and we're like, oh man, I wish this, I wish that, or we're gonna do this and we're gonna do that. And then we don't. It's like a month later, and we're like, oh, I thought we were gonna start going for walks after dinner. It's like or we do it at one time, or you know, like yeah, we're the world's worst at that.

SPEAKER_00 52:43

So we are definitely not um like preaching to the choir, we're preaching to our own choir. Like we are telling ourselves that we also need to do all of these things.

SPEAKER_06 52:52

So I think for me and you, if we're you know, being honest, looking at 2026 and our goals, I think where we're gonna struggle is sticking to them with our schedule.

SPEAKER_00 53:04

Yeah, and that's something that I've really been thinking about and like kind of what I because I am trying to lose a little weight, not quickly, just you know, over the next, you know, couple of months or so. I'm not I'm doing, I'm trying to come up with something that I know I can do regardless. Um, and we've even had conversations about like, you know, doing going, we're not I'm not a huge gym person. I don't like to sweat, you know. So like like like maybe like going for walks and then, but we're like, well, how do we go and walk when we travel? Well, we're usually in a hotel room and there's always a treadmill, you know. So we've been having these conversations, uh like preparing ourselves, and we're probably not gonna do well, you know. Like I'm already thinking about where this is we're recording this early, so we're going into New Year's, and I'm like, I'm gonna be drinking and it's gonna be like juice, and I'm trying to cut out, you know, it's like I'm already like pre-planning some of that or how to get around it, not how to get around it, but like how to make the best decision, like not completely derail, because that's kind of where we struggle is we have really good intentions and then we go on a week-long cruise and it like fucks everything up. And then you come back and you're like, where the hell do I pick back up? So I'm trying because we essentially travel two weeks a month. It's I can't derail for two weeks a month. That's I'm like doing half the work, you know? Right. So how do I stay on track even when traveling or doing the thing? So um, yeah, so that's kind of where we are and where I I know I'm struggling and I'm already trying to like pre-plan so that way I'm like set up for success, not up for failure.

SPEAKER_06 54:46

Yeah. I think it's the same thing where uh where even I think, okay, this isn't hard. Like you've done I did this for 20 years. I got up every day and went and worked out for an hour. Like I can do that. Um, and I can do that. The problem for me is like making that the priority.

SPEAKER_02 55:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:03

Because I basically work from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed, like on something. So I think it's like, okay, put that aside for that one hour a day. You're gonna get up. The first thing you're gonna do is go to the gym, work out for an hour. That if somebody calls you or texts you, or you know, you that can wait until you're done the the you time first. You know what I mean? So I don't know. We're gonna we gotta figure that out though. We don't we don't have an answer. We said we're gonna do it in the new year, and we still don't know necessarily how we're gonna.

SPEAKER_00 55:34

Well, I've already started.

SPEAKER_06 55:36

Have you? Yeah, the intermittent fasting?

SPEAKER_00 55:37

Yeah, I've been intermittent fasting yesterday, it's like day two. So I've already started and done pretty good.

SPEAKER_06 55:42

I think we need to set our alarm, get up at, even if it's 9 30, 10 o'clock, because we're bad at not getting up till 11, 12. So get up at nine o'clock in the morning, go do whatever the thing is, if it's a walk, if it's the gym. I think we could vary that up and do different things. Um, and just spend that time every morning. Yeah. With you know, taking care of our our physical and mental.

SPEAKER_00 56:04

Yeah, and I'm and I want to do it like just to create better habits, not necessarily to like change the way I look. I you know, I mean, if that happens, that's right. But we need to not sleep till 11. We're 41 years old. Yeah. We need to get our get our asses up, you know. So yeah, so that's kind of where we are. Excited for the new year, excited for 2026. Our schedule is crazy. Um, we would love to have you join us at one or all or some of the things that we will be at. They're all, they're not all posted. We do have like a calendar with tentative dates so you can kind of see where we'll, you know, kind of a gist of what's going on. But um, we'd love to have you at something that we're doing this year. You can hang out, it's gonna be it's gonna be a great year. I'm excited for it.

SPEAKER_06 56:54

Same. Same. Uh all right. So going into New Year, think about your health. Uh, be accountable to yourself, right? You can you can whine, you can complain, you can say, I want to do better. Um, but at the end of the day, unless you're taking active steps uh to get to your goals, you're just you're just talking. You're just you're just bitching. And it's not gonna unless you do something, it's not gonna change.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

Are you talking to me?

SPEAKER_06 57:17

I'm talking to me. I'm talking to me and you and us uh and everybody listening. I think we can all relate to that. Yeah. I think we if we spent as much time doing as we do complaining about um our body issues or whatever the thing is, uh, I think we'd all be in a better place.

SPEAKER_00 57:33

For sure.

SPEAKER_06 57:33

We if we just took that same amount of time on our calendar of bitching about uh our stuff and to doing something, uh we'd all be in a better place. Correct. All right. Anything else for the swing nation listeners?

SPEAKER_00 57:45

That's it.

SPEAKER_06 57:45

Happy New Year. We'll see you at uh Secrets or Electric Pleasures or Hito or Bliss Cruise. Go book some of that, swingercity.net. We'd love to see you.

SPEAKER_00 57:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 57:56

Uh, and that's all I got.

SPEAKER_00 57:57

Yep. I hope everybody has a great week and we'll see you next week.

SPEAKER_06 58:00

All right. I think with that, in a world full of apples, be the pineapple. Be the pineapple, guys.

SPEAKER_00 58:06

Bye.

SPEAKER_06 58:07

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SPEAKER_05 58:40

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