Tuesday Talks: Advice for Trying DP & DVP

Tuesday Talks: Advice for Trying DP & DVP  | Episode 112

In this week’s Tuesday Talks, Dan and Lacy are answering a listener question about exploring the fantasies of DVP and DP. They share their best advice from personal experience, including the importance of communication, comfort, chemistry, and making sure everyone involved is relaxed and on the same page.

They also talk about why performance anxiety can make these experiences harder to pull off, especially when both male partners need to feel confident and comfortable. More than anything, Dan and Lacy encourage listeners to be open and honest about their fantasies. You never know who might be curious about the same things — but you won’t find out unless you’re willing to put yourself out there and have the conversation.

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SPEAKER_02 0:00

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SPEAKER_01 0:22

Welcome to the Swing Nation Podcast, a podcast by swingers for swingers, where we look to educate others and push back on the negative stigmas and misconceptions associated with our lifestyle. Come with us and share our pineapple journey as we travel the globe, interview the experts, learn and grow together. Join the nation.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Tuesday tops. Just send your questions to Dan and Lake Day. Tuesday times. Tuesday tops.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

Talking Tuesday with Dan and Lacey. How about that high note?

SPEAKER_01 1:07

That's perfect. Hey there, pineapple people, and welcome to the Swing Nation podcast. We are your host, Northern Guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:14

And Southern Girl.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

And we are back with another Tuesday Talk Apple.

SPEAKER_02 1:22

Y'all, the Dan and Lake Wacy thing is like hilarious. We just got home from Splash Houston. And um, it's a thing. It is got some it's got some traction.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Here's what happened. The last two, Sanctuary, yeah, there's a lot of it. In Houston, where there was even more of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

We we walk down the hallways, and people are going, Doug and Wacy.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Yeah, it's funny. As we walk down the hallway. That's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Uh so Doug and Wacy has officially we do need a t-shirt now. We need merch. We need cups. We need to brand this. I think we there's some money to be made off Doug and Wacy.

SPEAKER_02 1:55

Listen. Um people think we exploit the lifestyle. So I guess might as well, might as well make some money on it. Um so anyway, welcome to Tuesday Talks. With Doug and Wacy. Dan does not know what we're um Oh yeah, you're I did not surprise you.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

I forgot this, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:11

But it is an area that he is, in my opinion, an expertise on.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

Oh, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

Yes. So it says, and it comes from a text. So yeah, it says, hey guys, Megan and Joe here. We really love your show, and it's been so helpful as it's as we have been navigating the lifestyle. We have a Tuesday talk question, more so I, Megan, do. We have been talking about trying DP and DVP. So I'm I'm nervous to try it, but the thought of it, especially DVP, is so sexy to me. So I just wanted to get some advice about the best way to approach this between finding the right size, penises, prep positions. Any advice would be helpful. Looking forward to hopefully meeting you two on Bliss in November, Megan and Joe. And uh Megan and Joe are I'm not gonna show the camera, but let me show you.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Well, Megan, I I know exactly how you try this. Um all you gotta do is just message us on the Bliss app. Um, we'll set a time and we'll just make it happen.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

Megan is gorgeous. I mean, Joe is also handsome, but Megan, you know, she's the she's a looker there. Um reason I thought this would be a good one for you, Dan, is because you do a lot of DVP DP. I have done both. Well you say a lot.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

It happens like every couple months.

SPEAKER_02 3:32

You did it the last like two events.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

So not the last one, the last two before that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:36

Well, yeah, you did two in a row. So does it happen yes? Um, it's almost like a party trick, and in the lifestyle is a great place to try this. So I really thought if anybody could give you advice, it would be Dan. Obviously, I can chime in from the female perspective, but we can kind of let you know how we've done this and how it's worked in the past.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

All right. So, first of all, let's explain terms. All right. So if you don't know, what Megan Megan, right? Yeah, is asking about is DVP and DP. DVP means double vagina penetration. Yes. Right? Which is means two penises in one vagina.

unknown 4:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

DP is double penetration, which usually refers to a penis in a vagina and a penis in a butthole.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:19

An asshole.

SPEAKER_02 4:21

Yeah, which if you want to continue this, then there's airtight, which is then you put one in your mouth. So all of your holes are filled. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

So yeah, so that would be vagina, ass, and mouth would be airtight, what most people would call airtight. Uh, okay, so so Megan is interested in in trying this. So she has some questions, and these are questions we we might have done a podcast on this before.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

We might have, but yeah, I think it's been a while. So I thought it was worth doing.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

Yeah, it's definitely been a while. So the questions are penis size, right? And position. The third thing you should probably ask is how do you keep the penises hard? Yeah. Because that often is the most difficult thing at performing either one of these tasks. Because as you can imagine, getting into position and getting things where they go can be a little bit awkward, right? Uh, so the keys to finding the right males to perform this with you, Megan, is you have to have people that are confident. Uh, you have to have people with high performance. If you're somebody that is shy or is, you know, in a in a tight situation, gets nervous uh and maybe loses their erection, that is not the right person to perform this task because it just takes you a while to get in position to get everything there. You often draw attention, especially if you're doing this in a playroom or something like that. Uh, even in a room with your friends, usually people stop to watch because they're like, oh, that she's being a dirty slut. Everybody wants to watch. Uh, so I think step one is finding two males that feel confident that they can maintain an erection. I like to use Trimix for this very situation, right? Um if you know, at the very least, you want to probably be on, you know, Viagra, Seattle, something like that. Uh, of course, consult with your medical professionals about if you should take that medication or if you qualify for it. Don't listen to Dan. But those things will help you in this type of situation.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Question two, dick size. There, I think there's too big.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Yeah, I mean, from the female perspective, that's definitely a personal preference for you. Um, two really big dicks is too much for me, but that might not be too much for you. So it's really your comfort level. Um, I it if it was me giving you advice, I would say probably average to even small to start out would probably be your better, better way of doing it.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

I don't know if small is the answer.

SPEAKER_02 6:45

Well, I mean, when I say small, I mean like long helps because you need a little length in there. But I'm talking about like her vagina like hurting.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Average girth. Uh, and I would say average length, and I would even say to maybe a little bit above average length. Because here's the problem. When you do this, somebody's always slipping out. Yeah. And so if they have a below average cock, it's hard to not get that to come out. Yeah. Right. Uh, because the positions are a little awkward. Uh you need need some length so that you can be in a unless you're doing DP, then put the small dick in your ass. This in a DP situation, the small dick in your ass is probably the best case scenario. Yeah, that's ideal. Uh, but in DVP, you it's kind of nice to have where the both guys have a little bit of length so that they can kind of leverage themselves in there without sliding out.

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

Uh okay. So for DP, small penis in the ass is fine. For D VP, you want average to a little bit above average length, girth, average is completely fine. If it's even if they're below average girth, that's fine as well. Um so let's talk position a little bit. There's a few different positions. Um, so let's talk DP. Uh, probably the best position is what everybody's thinking of is the girl's gonna get on top of the male in like a I guess was that reverse missionary or whatever. What do you call it? The girl just on top. Is there a name for that?

SPEAKER_02 8:11

Just a girl on top.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

So a girl gets on top, she, you know, guy's legs are together, she straddles his legs.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

The next like she, like you're gonna ride him.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

Right. Like you're you're riding him, you're facing the guy, and the second guy comes up from behind and fucks you doggy style in the butt, right? That's probably the the easiest DP position there is. Yeah, I've seen some other stuff, right? Where uh I've seen a guy pick up a girl and is fucking her, and then the guy stands up behind, like so like he's fucking her standing up, and the guy's standing up behind her, fucking her in the ass. That's kind of hot. That's a pro move. That's some porn star move.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Do you think like maybe watching some porn would be beneficial? But here's the thing, though. Just just not because not to get turned on, like for research purposes. Because like it's kind of hard to see what we're explaining because we're you know, we're trying to tell you and you're trying to visualize it. Like if you just make it like a hot night, like let's like do a little research and type. Obviously, it's not gonna look like it does in porn because it's not I mean it's real, but it's not like a real. They've put them in that position and then they say go, but it might be worth looking and seeing how they have their bodies. Certainly research personally.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Certainly, you can watch some porn. What I'm gonna tell you though is in most porn videos, they're not always doing the easiest position. Yeah, they're doing the best position for camera angle.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

Yeah, but I'm just saying you might be able to visualize it. Yeah, and it could be hot, and then you have hot spots.

SPEAKER_01 9:33

Like a lot of porn, you're probably gonna see the girl in the guy's lap, and and you know, she's sitting on top of him and he's fucking her in the ass, and then the guy's coming from the front because they can get that angle.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

Well, do with that information. But sure, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

I I listen, I always will encourage you to watch porn, right? Watch the hell out of some porn. Yeah, watch all the DP and D VP porn you can. Uh, but I think the easiest starting position is gonna be with the girl on top and the guy coming in from behind, doggy, for DP, right? And if you're talking dick size, I would probably pick the smaller dick in the ass, the normal dick in the vagina. Uh, and you know, there it takes you a minute to kind of one get in there and get in position and then figuring out the stroking, um, you know, it it can go where one go guy goes and the next guy goes, or both guys are going together. Uh, in this position, probably both guys going together, you know, you just kind of have to do it. It's probably the best position. But if the guys get off of beat, one's gonna slip out. You know, that's kind of what ends up happening. So uh in this DP position where the girl's on top and the guy's fucking from behind. Honestly, if the girls, if both guys kind of standing still and just letting the girl kind of work it in and do her thing is probably the best case scenario for that position. Okay, DVP. Yeah, a few different options. The easiest one is probably the exact same thing that we just described, right? Girl gets on top, guy puts his legs together, girl is on top of her, straddling the guy's legs, right? She's on top, and then second guy comes from behind, like in a doggy position, and he slides in from behind. In this scenario, the guy sliding in from behind is going to be doing most of the the work, right? The other guy, really, what when I'm the bottom guy in this situation, I just my job is to keep my penis inside of her, right? I'm not really even stroking, I'm kind of moving with her, trying not to fall out. Because that guy on bottom is always the one that's if he's if a guy's gonna fall out, it's gonna be him. Uh, and then the guy doing the doggy style, you probably want that to be the slightly longer or bigger guy because he's got a little more room to work with, because you need a little bit of length to be able to get around everybody and into the hole and and be able to fuck. Yeah, lots of lube for both situations. Start very, very slow. If it starts to hurt or tear or any of that kind of stuff, stop what you're doing, right? Uh, as you start doing it, work it in real slow. She'll read her body language, or you know, if you're the girl, be vocal, say that feels good.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

You can do it harder, or you know, usually we just kind of slow down gentle roles, kind of navigate it. So usually, like, even though yeah, let's say Dan is putting the dickie in, you kind of like let the girl be the one, like, okay, okay, okay, okay, that feels good. Okay, go slow. Okay, okay, I'm okay. Now you can fuck me a little harder. Like, we kind of always let the female sort of be the one that navigates it, sort of, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:23

Yeah, and that's it's you can I mean you can hurt somebody in this situation if you go too fast, or you know, you can you can you could rip something or you know.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

So I guess my next question though is um, so we well, it's not a question, I guess it's just like advice because I I don't know if she asks this, but how do you find somebody to do this with, you know? And this is why we like playing with a lot of the same people. We like to make friendships, we like to get to know each other, we like to hang out each with each other a bunch. And so what happens is when we're in a playroom or in our in our hotel room or wherever we are, we can be like, okay, what is something cool y'all have always wanted to do? Okay, I want to do try DP. Okay, let's do it. So then you've already slept with this person a couple of times. You they know your body, they know your sounds, vice versa. And so it's easy to like try it. And then if you're like, okay, I tried it, I hate it, they're like, okay, cool, no problem. It's a little bit different when you just randomly meet someone in a playroom that you've never fucked before and you're like, oh, let's spot it in my PvP me. That seems like a stretch. So, in my opinion, if you're gonna, from a female perspective, if you're wanting to feel comfortable and you're wanting to try this, find somebody that you've slept with a few times that you're comfortable. Maybe both you and the both the wives want to try this. So we're like, hey, why don't y'all come over? What let's have a date night and let's, you know, let's try it. And you you've you've planned, you know, maybe the guys take, you know, the Viagra, you know, you just everything you've you've planted out. It's definitely something that's not like spur of the moment. Does it happen spur of the moment sometimes?

SPEAKER_01 13:51

Yes, but I think it's probably better if you you know the couple and you're comfortable and yeah, and this is a good, you know, we've seen a lot of this uh the fuck it list that we've talked about a lot on this podcast. Those are the per this is the perfect kind of thing for that. So, you know, if you if you're getting ready, like she's talking about going on Bliss cruise, right? If you're in a group chat, either on, you know, maybe you're in our Discord and you're you're coming with us, or you're in a telegram, you know, there's a lot of telegram groups out there, uh, there's even you know chats on Bliss, the Bliss app, um, say throwing out a thing like, hey, here's our fucking list for the trip into that group and just you know, and then DVP.

SPEAKER_02 14:25

Yeah, has anybody ever done it before? Do I have any pros? You know, like for instance, like if somebody says, Hey, I'd love to try DP, and I know that Dan's interested in the wife, like, hey, my husband is like a pro at it, he'll be happy to you know help you with that if that's something you want to plan. So you're gonna you're gonna have to put yourself out there, you know. I mean, but it can be fun. And and it maybe it's not something you want to try in a playroom. Maybe you say, hey, let's go back to our room and try this tonight. You know, I mean, shit can happen, literally.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Uh yeah, but I think that's you know, we get a lot of slack about calling having sex with other people play. But I think it's a perfect word because this is what you're talking about, right? When you have fantasies and you get a group of people together that trust each other and connect and have that sexual energy, you can play around and try new things and experiment. And and everybody in that room, if they're the right people, are gonna be encouraging of that and they're gonna want to help you. You know, he and this is where I think we all screw up, right? Because we all go to events and we're all like afraid to talk to people and afraid to make the first move and afraid that's gonna be. We're all there for the same reason. But I guarantee you, everybody else that's on that dance floor, everybody else that's in that pool is all hoping that you will walk up to them and say, Oh, hey, hey guys, I'm so-and-so. Hey, do you want to go? We're thinking about going to the playroom. You guys want to come with us? Like, everybody's that's I wish somebody came up to us at Splash and said that, right? We just had that episode uh last Thursday where we didn't fuck anybody at Splash Houston. If one cute couple had come up to us probably on that Friday or Saturday night and said, Hey guys, we're thinking about going to the playroom. You guys want to come? And it was a connect a a couple we if it wasn't a connect couple we were vibing with, you'd probably be like, Oh no, I think we're gonna chill for tonight. If it was a couple, we'd have been like, fuck yeah, you know what I mean? And there's probably an 80% chance we would have said fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:10

On the flip side, we could have done that too.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

We could have, right. But what I'm saying is if you have these fantasies, putting them out there, you're gonna find people that want to make them happen for you. And you're probably also gonna encourage other people to share their fantasies. And this is how you have a good Bliss Cruise. This is how you have a good secrets, this is how you have a good splash event. Is in the earlier you can get a group of people into a chat room and talking about these kinds of things and connecting and vibing, the better that experience when you go to that event is going to be. Um, so if you're going on Bliss Cruise, find some group chats, get on the Discord server for on us, even if you didn't book to us, we'll still put you in the chat and start talking about these things with people. And I promise you, that's gonna make your experience 10 times, 10 times better.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Uh secrets, they started doing that the slug card bingo card, the the fan, the fuck it list bingo cards. Oh, really? And they're putting them in their window on their room where it's a whole like a bingo card and it's got all the things they want to do. And I I don't, I guess if you do four in a row, you win. I don't know how it works, but they're blind this like fuck it list bingo, which I think is fucking amazing, right? And posting it on your door or in your window at Secrets. I mean, there's a giant there's a giant sign of these are all the freaky things I want to do. Yeah, and I promise, you know, you put that in your window during a room crawl, right? And you're hosting a room or or you just in your room, like, you know, people see that and they're gonna be like, oh shit. Yeah, you know, my husband really loves doing D VP or DP. Like, if you need somebody, let us know.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

Yeah, because you definitely will find people that are good at it that have they know like they've done it a few times, like maybe they have the links. And I would definitely, if you could find somebody that's got a little DVP under their belt, I would probably go that way.

SPEAKER_01 17:52

And listen, guys, it's not gay. It doesn't mean you're any, it doesn't question your sexuality. You know, if you are gay, that's totally cool. Uh honestly, if you are gay, you probably don't want to do VP DVP. You're probably not into that, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:02

Yeah, you don't want to be maybe, maybe they maybe deep two dicks in an ass. Right. They might be into that.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

That I've never seen before. I haven't either. I read about it in my books. Oh, really? Yeah. So anyway, you know, I think, you know, put your check your uh insecurities at the door. Yeah. I'm telling you, as a straight male, it's fucking hot and I love doing it. Yeah. And I'll do it just about anytime somebody uh requests it. Yeah. Um, so yeah, go go try. I mean, this is what is fun about the lifestyle is experimenting, exploring, trying new things, exploring your fantasies. Get out there, do it. Uh, don't be shy. Yeah. All right. Does that answer this question? It does. All right. If you have a Tuesday talk question, we would love to hear from you. There's a few different ways you can get a hold of us. You can text or call and leave a voicemail.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

And the phone number for that is 972-302-7716.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

Or you can email us at theswingnation at gmail.com and you can email us your questions, or you can send a voice note, or I'm still waiting for somebody to send a video recording of themselves uh that I can put on my TV. Our internet isn't working in the office right now, so that's why the TV is not on.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

Yeah, we haven't, we're in it's been storming.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

We can't stream to it because the internet's out.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

But uh luckily we can record the podcast without internet.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

So but uh I'm still waiting for our first video to put up on the big screen.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

All right, and we'd love to hear your questions. We could use some more. How are we doing on questions? Lice has been kind of in charge. We've got some, but we can use some more. We can always use some more. So please, please, if you've been listening for a while and you've been thinking about re reaching out and you're shy, uh, send us your questions. We can really use them. That we can't do this without you. Yeah, Tuesday talks cannot happen unless you uh pick up that phone or send us an email.

unknown 19:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

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