Hedo 101: Everything You Need to Know Before You Go

Hedo 101: Everything You Need to Know Before You Go | Episode 253

Thinking about a trip to Hedo but not sure what to expect? In this episode of The Swing Nation Podcast, Dan and Lacy are giving listeners the full Hedo 101. From the legendary pool parties and nightlife to the rooms, food, beach, and overall resort vibe, they break down what a first-time trip to Hedonism II in Jamaica can really look like.

They also share why getting off the resort for an excursion can be one of the best parts of your vacation, along with a few of their favorite experiences to add to your itinerary. Plus, for couples who are curious about Hedo but still private about being in the lifestyle, Dan and Lacy offer practical advice for keeping your trip discreet around family, friends, coworkers, and anyone else who does not need to know the details.

Whether Hedo has been on your bucket list for years or you are only beginning to wonder what all the hype is about, this episode is packed with honest insight, helpful tips, and everything you need to know before booking that Jamaican getaway.

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

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SPEAKER_00 0:22

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SPEAKER_01 0:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

All right, so this week we are talking all things hedonism to resort in the Grill, Jamaica. If you don't know, we're getting ready to go there for our annual trip with us in My Frisky Business and Topless Travel. This is a trip we do the last week of July every single year. And so if you're getting ready to go with us, we want to give you all the tips and tricks. Or maybe you're just a listener that's considering a trip to HEDO and you don't know what to expect, you don't know what to pack, you don't know what to do. So we'll help you out as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Yeah. A lot of people Google HETO and then they get some of our information. So these this is also for you. Like Dan said, if you have an upcoming trip, pretty much what we will tell you will apply to you. Obviously, book with us. We go every uh year in the summer. So we would love to have you be a part of our group. But if you can't and you you've already booked or whatever, hopefully this will help you.

SPEAKER_00 1:58

Yeah, swingerssociety.net. If you're looking for a heto trip, uh, we go every year. I think it's just about always posted. You might have to scroll through the events to find it. Uh, because you know it's it's the end last week of July every single year. So, you know, if you're hearing this in like August, it's probably you gotta scroll through a bunch of events to get to it. Yeah. Uh, but you can find it swingersociety.net. Yes. Uh, okay. So let's start off with what is hedo uh for maybe people that don't know, they're just hearing this for the first time. What is this hedonism that we're talking about?

SPEAKER_01 2:31

So I don't have an official uh definition because I didn't research, you did, but it's a clothing optional resort in Jamaica for lifestyle people. Uh you do not have like there's not like a quiz to get through the door or anything like that. Uh, we've met lots of people that go just because they want the sexy atmosphere but are not interested in swapping. So as long as you're comfortable with aspects of the lifestyle, uh it you're you're good there. You you don't know it's not a requirement, but it is an all-inclusive resort in Jamaica on the beach, clothing optional, a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

Full lifestyle.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Full lifestyle.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Uh, and it you said all inclusive, right? Yeah. Uh so keto, I don't know how long it's been there. Uh I would say probably decades. Uh it's probably one of the older resorts uh that's part of the lifestyle community. And it's it's almost like infamous, I guess you could say. There's a few, uh, you know, when you think about lifestyle and lifestyle events and lifestyle travel, there's a few places that always come up. Uh, and and hedonism is at the top, near the top of that list. Yeah, heedo, desire, you hear a lot about naughty new orleans, bliss cruise, temptations, uh temptations, and then parry that uh was it Camp Dag? Camp Dag, however you say that, um, which is like a it's in France, I believe. It's a nudist like place, but they do a big lifestyle event every year. Uh or probably like some of the ones.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

What's the one in Key West?

SPEAKER_00 3:57

Uh uh fantasy fests. Yeah, you hear a lot about that. Yeah, that's not, I don't think, lifestyle, but a lot of lifestyle people go to that. So uh yeah, so there's but Hito is definitely near the top of uh that list.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Yeah, even vanilla people kind of know about Hito.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

It's not so it's located in Negrill, Jamaica. It's on, I think they call it Seven Mile Beach or something, which is uh a nice beach there in Jamaica. It's kind of if you're looking at the island, it's on the what would be the west side, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

I don't if you're asking me, that's I think it's the west side of the island. I don't know geography.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

Man, if I screw that up, I'm gonna feel bad, but I'm pretty sure it's the west side of the island, kind of on the south side, all the way to the west of Jamaica. Um and it it's uh a resort and it's split into two sides. And this gets people confused a lot. There is a what they call a nude side and a prude side. So the nude side, you it's not clothing optional, it's you have to be naked, right? So they put signs up on the beach, there's signs up on all the sidewalks. So when you get to that side of the resort, it says this is a nude area, please stop and disrobe. Now, that being said, there are rooms on that side. So I can remember the first couple times we went to Hito, we like would walk up to the sign and then take our clothes off. Yeah, you do not have to do that.

SPEAKER_01 5:09

There's some gray area there. So, like if you're going to your room, obviously, you don't have to take your clothes off to walk to your room. Or if you're going if you're just walking through there, you don't really when you need to take your clothes off, is there is a nude pool area. So if you stop, like you could honestly walk through there and no one's gonna say anything to you as long as you keep moving. But if you stop and like talk or or whatever, security you start hanging out with clothes. Security will come up and be like, hey, you either need to keep walking or take your clothes off.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

There is like a little like um grill right in there that you can even get away with some clothes there. Uh it technically it's it's the nude side, but like if you're getting your food to go back to your room, I don't think they're gonna be like, hey, you have to get naked to stand here and wait on your food.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

Right.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Um, a lot of people will actually like cover up when they go, like put a tail around them and stuff because you're sitting in seats and stuff like that. So there is definitely some gray area, but for the most part, they do want you to be nude on the nude side, especially if you're hanging out.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

So if you're on the that side of the signs and you stop to hang out, if you stop to get a beach chair, or if you go to the pool, or if you you're you know and when they say nude, they mean nude.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

Like you like, for instance, I am a bottoms, I like to wear my bikini bottoms. No, you they you have to be butt-ass naked. No, you can wear pasties, you can wear a belly chain, but you can't wear your bottoms, you can't, nothing like that. You have to be nude.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Uh okay, so people that are hearing this maybe for the first time or thinking about hido.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

Can we talk about the prude side real quick?

SPEAKER_00 6:43

Oh, sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

Yeah, so the prude side, uh, a lot of people think you can't be naked over there because it's prude, you have to be covered. And that's actually not true. That is a true clothing optional. So you can have your all your you can have a one-piece bikini on, you can be butt-ass naked. It doesn't matter. Um, but it's it's just not a requirement. So it is, they say prude, but it's not really that prude. You can be completely butt-ass naked or over there, and then that's not an issue. It just you're not required to take anything off.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

Correct. Okay. All right. So now let's talk about a little bit. If somebody's hearing this, who would you recommend go to heto? What kind of people go to heto? Do you have to be like a full-blown swinger? What if you're new and curious? What if you're just somebody that likes to be naked, but you maybe don't identify as a swinger? I think all of the above people, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

I think all of the above, I think you have to be comfortable with seeing sex though, because heto, um, sex can be had anywhere. So on a pool table, on a chair, in a pool, on the side of the pool, in the in the ocean, anywhere there's a surface, or hell, it doesn't even have to be a surface, you can do it standing, I guess. You can have sex.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Where you know, something like a bliss cruise, you have to go into a designated play space to have sex. So if you're not comfortable with seeing sex, I don't recommend going.

SPEAKER_03 8:07

No.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

But if you're comfortable with it and you're okay with it, then I think you're fine. Um, you don't have to engage, you don't have to do anything, but you will see it. So keep that in mind. I think as long as you're good with air, I think you're comfortable with going. I think you're good going. I don't think you have to be a certain type of swinger. I don't think you have to even be a swinger. I think it's whatever you're comfortable with. We've met people from all walks there.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

Agreed. Agreed. Um, okay. Uh booking your trip. So if somebody's heard about Hito uh and they're wanting to book and they're wanting to go to HEDO, um, how some ways that they can book that?

SPEAKER_01 8:45

Okay, so there's this is a a big, big part of this. So listen up. So you can always just go to HETO's website and book a week. You know, like if you know you have this week available and you want to go, by all means book. Hito does this thing called like it's like groups. So groups will come together. It's like like-minded people. So if you want my opinion, I think it's better to find a group uh uh that you resonate with. And that's the problem is finding that group. Now Hito does have a lot of them listed on their website so you can go in and kind of see. But some, for example, some weeks are swing or spring break. So obviously, you know, party, younger, a lot of fun. Then then you have weeks that are sexy silvers, which are gonna be an older generation. Then you have some weeks that are like fat guys with skinny wives, you know, there is a week, what other kind of weeks?

SPEAKER_00 9:44

And I think there's a bye week.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

Yeah, there's a bye week. I could probably pull up HEDO. So, you know, like for instance, if you and your spouse are not by and you book on bye week and you go, you're gonna be inferred a little bit of a surprise, right? You know, so I think knowing kind of what you're getting your stuff.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Or if you're a couple that's in your 20s or 30s and you go to Sexy Silver week, that might not be the week you want to go. Uh, so I do think you're correct that planning the week or at least having an idea of what week you're walking into beforehand is a good idea.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

I'll read off just a couple of these other weeks. Yeah, I went to their website. Um July summer takeover. So it's HEDA's biggest party of the year. It's the Fluffinutter Summer Splash. Um, and then you have Kink Week.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Okay. Uh if you're a kinky person, that might be a good one.

unknown 10:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

Uh Sexy Grooves Tour, that's a week. Um, let's see, My Frisky Business andor Swear Saudi. That's a week. Young Lifestyle Week, which is the one we're doing. Um, O Canada, so people from Canada, that's a week for you. Summerfest Rockfest, so Hito Summer Rockfest, that can be fun. Hito swing breakers, Simful Seductions, uh Chaco Bliss, uh BBW, big beautiful weekend, uh Seymour's Misfits, 12th Annual Bear as You Dare Week, uh Champagne, Wishes and Mocha Dreams, Sunny Buns, Pussycat Parties, Bye Week, Wild Women Vacation, Sexy Silver, Curious Adventure, Swink Swink, Swink Nation, is that how you say it? Yeah. It's swinking. It's by the diamonds in ink. So if you're a heavy tattoo person, uh, I can keep going. I mean, I think that's good.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

We got an idea. Yeah. I don't think you have to lose them all. But yeah, so you kind of get it. Some of those weeks, it's like obvious what it is, like the kink week or you know, or uh, like you said, sexy silver week. Some of those weeks, if they're just a random name, I have no idea what they are.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

Yeah, but if you click into it, you can get more information. So yeah, you can click into it and get, you know.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

A little bit more about what it what the week's about. Yeah. Okay, that well, that helps. So what what you're saying, if I'm hearing you correctly, is before you go, go on to their website, look at the calendar, figure out when you're available to go, and then look at what the weeks are and see if those align, if that's a week that you're actually interested in.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

Yeah. And it's fun being a part of a group. Usually there are so like let's talk about advantages of being part of a group. Usually there are chats amongst the group.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

So when you say group, all right. So I go to the website, I look at the week, right? And it says what week it is. Does it tell you which groups are going? It does. Okay, and then does it give you links to those groups' websites?

SPEAKER_01 12:47

Or in the in the phone number so you can do some more research. And a lot of times they'll be listed on like SDC and Cassidy and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

So something go search on Cassidy or SDC for the same.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

You can ask friends, like, hey, have you been to ever been to HETO? And people were pretty loyal to their group, so they they've been with a group and they'd be like, We went with one time we went with this group and it was a lot of fun, but we went with this other group, it was just okay. So you can kind of like ask your friends. So some of the advantages of going, usually there are pre-trip chats, uh, like Telegram, Discord.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

Yeah, I know for our week, our week we're in a Discord chat, we're in a in a Facebook chat. And I know I'm not in it, but I know there is a Telegram chat.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

Yeah, I'm in the Telegram chat. And then there is a Discord chat for the group that we're in. Also, like if you book with our group, for example, we did a pre-travel Zoom call so we can answer questions, kind of like this format, but people are allowed to ask questions and we give answers. Um, and then obviously if they forget something, they can always ask in our chat. We can answer for us. If you travel with us, you get swag bags from us. Um, we'll also help you with any um travel arrangements. So, for example, if you need a car to take you from the airport to Hito or anything like that, we are here to help you get that scheduled. So um just stuff like that, we're always here to help if you travel with a group. And I'm I'm pretty positive every group has some level of that. Yeah, they're not all gonna be the same, but it's similar.

SPEAKER_00 14:21

Okay. Uh okay. So if I'm hearing you right, so we find the week that we're available that we want to go, we go look at HETO's website, uh, find what the week is, maybe find the group, then we go to that group's website or whatever, and we we book, and then that group will reach out to us, they'll add us to their their chats and things like that, and then we can we can go from there. Uh if you have a wide variety of availability, you should book with with us, undoubtedly, right? Yeah, and then if really if you're thinking about other groups, groups that we recommend. Um, obviously Topless Travel is who we are a sub-affiliate of. So any topless travel week, you know that's gonna be a good week. They are they're always very organized, and and they've done this a million times, so they're a good group. And then uh Tom's Trips is another group. We've done Tom's Trips. And I think those are two the two biggest, if you know, uh groups that do keto trips multiple times a year.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

I've heard of like the fluffinutters, I've heard of like the rascals, uh so there, you know, there are gonna be some good, good groups, but yeah, just find find one out there.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

Topless travel would probably be, you know, us, topless travel and tom's trips would probably be the top, my top recommendations. Agree, uh, so to speak. Okay. All right. So then once you book, the question then becomes what do you pack? What do you bring? How do you prepare?

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Yeah. So uh Hito puts out their themes on their websites and they put them out pretty far in advance. They do the same themes for about six months and then they rotate it. So, for example, I think it was like January through June was one set of themes, and then July through like uh December, maybe is another set of themes. So you're gonna go on there and find the themes. For us with Topless Travel, we keep the themes the same, but definitely check with the group that you're in because some groups change them.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

I hate that.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

We change we found that out when we traveled with Tom's trips because we didn't know. We had never traveled with a group before. So I went to Hito's websites, pulled the themes, and started working on them. And then later we found out that no, Tom's trips changes the themes and they send those out. So we had to like redo a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

But I don't like that because then you go to dinner at night and like half the groups, half the people there are wearing one thing and half the people are wearing another. And sometimes the themes don't like these people are wearing like black and you know, like elegant affair, and these people are wearing 70s clothes. Like, so it's like I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

Yeah, I personally think we should all be in the same theme.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

So like some groups probably don't like the themes that Hito picks, so they're trying to do their own thing, which I kind of get that. Yeah. Uh because I don't always like the themes that Hitos picks, but I do like when everybody's at least in the same theme.

SPEAKER_01 16:55

Yeah, so you could definitely get that from the website. Um, I will say every person that goes to Hito overpacks the first time. It is clothing optional, but then we really overthink our clothes, which is hilarious. We all do it. Um, but the truth is you don't really need a lot of bikinis. Um, you do need a couple because there are chances to get off the property. Yeah. And you do need to be covered in those. Also, if you want to take pictures for your family and stuff like that, uh, you'll need to be in a bathing suit for that. Uh, so you definitely need a few bathing suits. You probably don't need 20, but a couple. Um, you probably need some sort of cover-up to wear between the room and the pool and or to eat because you the only place at Hito that you do require to have clothes on is around the food and buffet. Like in the lobby. They prefer you not be butt-ass nude. Well, you know, if you're just walking through, they might be like, hey, but if you stop to get food or anything like that, they're they're gonna ask you to go put it.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

Now we'll add the cover-up can be sheer. Can they don't care?

SPEAKER_01 17:56

They don't care.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

So if you can see through the cover up, it's fine as long as you have clothes on.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

Yeah, as long as you have something on. Like it can be like a sheer dress, it can anything like that is fine. Uh so you need that, and then you need your theme outfits for the night. And there's a lot of questions like do you wear your theme outfits to dinner and do you not? We always have, um, with the exception of there's been a few times where we've had like an early dinner, like we came straight from the pool, and instead of having to wait, because you can't make reservations at Hito, so a lot of times we'll just change real quick into like a sundress and use some shorts and a t-shirt, we'll go eat. Then we'll come back and shower and get ready for the night portion. But outside of that, we pretty much are always in our theme outfits at dinner. Um, and we usually just wear outfits for the whole night. Where some places, like a club and stuff, you usually will switch to lingerie about midnight or so. Hito, most of my outfits are lingerie ish.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Based.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

Yeah, yeah. Like because it is usually very, very hot there, I try to wear as little fabric as possible. So a lot of times I'll do just lingerie with accessories or something like that for the most part. So then, like, as the night goes, I might lose some of my accessories, but I my base is the lingerie. So, but but if you wanted to change in lingerie, you could. You don't have to, though.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

No, I agree. Uh okay, what about uh sunscreen, uh condoms, lube, toys, things like that.

SPEAKER_01 19:21

All of that needs to be packed. I will say that Hito has a store on property that pretty much anything that you need, they have like a little convenience store. Yeah, I mean it's gonna be higher price, just like any they have nick knickknacks and stuff too, yeah. They have souvenirs too. They have HETO merch, but they definitely have sunblock, they have condoms, whatever like that you need. If you forgot, it's price is it how's pricing? I mean, it's a little higher, just like any kind of like if you go to Disney, but not like crazy. It's not anything crazy, no. Um, but if you need condoms, by God, buy the fucking condoms. Or ask your neighbor, you know.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Um or bring them, would probably be the well, yeah. But if you forget them, you know.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Another good thing about being in a group is you're probably in a chat. Like, guys, I got here and I have zero condoms. Does anybody have an extra pack before I go pay too much for them at the gift shop? Um, but but they definitely have things like that. But it try to think of all of those things. Another pro tip I would give people is you're traveling internationally, so you want to bring a small supply of like not a first aid kit, because obviously if you have an emergency, they have stuff, but allergy medicine or um headache medicine. Ladies, I always travel with yeast infection medicine um or UTI medicine in the event that that happens is when there's sex, water, sand, chlorine, all of that, your pH, your pH can very much get thrown off pretty easy. And so I I would rather have it with me than have to go to a Jamaican hospital.

SPEAKER_00 20:49

Boric acid.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

Yeah, boric acid. Any of those, I have like a little emergency travel kit that I pretty much bring it everywhere, but primarily I bring it when we go out of the country. That way, if I don't have access to a quick drugstore or something like that, I at least have a kind of overview. And usually how I figured out how to put things in there is we've needed one. Like the last the February cruise, Dan was running a fever and I needed a thermometer. I didn't have one. So you best bet when we got home, I added a thermometer to my emergency kit, and now I travel with a thermometer. So just like little stuff like that. I mean, you're gonna they have it if you absolutely need it. It's just so you don't have to deal with that. It's nice to just have those things.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

Cash.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Yeah, you yeah, I think you need to bring some cash, uh, especially like tipping. Uh not so much at the resort because you're not required to tip, but like getting out of getting off the airplane, getting your bags, getting your stuff in the car, the driver of the car, the the bell hot when you first get to heat, all of those things you definitely should tip. But the cool thing is they have an ATM on property that we use pretty much every time. So if you run out of cash, it's not, it's not a big issue. Get any there.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

Uh what about uh bug spray or uh electrolytes, any of that?

SPEAKER_01 22:06

All of that. I think that's all part of yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

I mean bugs haven't noticed a huge issue. I don't remember one there was one year where at dinner there was like these flies.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

Yeah, they're almost like noceums or something like that. Like you couldn't see anything, but something was definitely biting our legs. So yeah, I mean, I think it it's always uh, you know, to have like a little travel one. I don't think it's a bad idea. Um I definitely would bring that. And obviously, if you are somebody that needs electrolytes, or is that I would definitely bring them. Or even if you're not, if you're not used to traveling internationally in the sun for seven, eight days in a row, it can wipe you out. So having something like that is definitely always a pro move.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

Yeah. Uh okay, let's talk a little bit now about the layout of the resort. So we always we're already kind of crushed the there's a nude side and there's a prude side, and to get from one side to the other, you have to get naked. You don't only necessarily have to be unless you stop. Um, but let's just talk about a little bit about the general resort. So you kind of get the picture here. The resort is on the ocean, it's on this seven-mile beach in Jamaica. What people fail to realize, what we didn't realize on the first time we went, we went, is that the resort is also kind of on a hill. Yeah. Right? So to get from where the buffet, the check-in counter, the main lobby is of the resort to the beach, it's a downhill walk. And it's not super far, but it's a good, it's a good walk.

SPEAKER_01 23:26

It's not a huge resort, but it is a little bit spaced out. Um, it's only like 250 rooms or something like that. So it's not huge, but it's you know, it takes you five minutes to hardly walk from one side to the other. Right. Yeah, and you're definitely right, it's definitely hilly. Um, so heels are not you know the easiest. Now, if you are a heel girl and you're committed to it, by all means, go for it. Especially like if you just want to wear them in the beginning for your pictures and stuff, uh go for it. I found that it's it's not necessary unless my outfit just absolutely calls for it. I try to avoid heels at all possible. Um yeah, it is kind of heely for sure.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

So that the bottom of the hill is the beach, it's a nice sandy beach on the ocean. Um, there are paved walkways that kind of um that go throughout the resort to get you from one place to the other. Uh there are several pools. Uh so on the prude side, there's two big pools, but then there's also a bunch of little like loungy plunge pools that are kind of meant for a small group or kind of a place to hang out.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

Um they're really low-key. So if you're not a big party or like or maybe you are, but you need like a day's break, the prude side is probably gonna be where you wanna be. It's it's there's still fun, there's still stuff going on. It's just much more relaxed environment. There's not loud music blaring, there's not you know, hundreds of people in the pool, like the nude side. I mean, the yeah, the nude side is is it's really like a pool and then a big hot tub. Like it's almost like a it looks like a little mini pool, but it's actually a hot tub. That is where primarily most everything is gonna be. That's where the party happens.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

During the day, the day party happens.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Yeah, that's where the bulk of everything. And it's got a swim at bar, it's got like a regular hot tub in it, and then it's got a waterfall. But that is where the bulk of your day will be if that if that's if partying is your thing.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

Yeah. Uh also on premise, there is a nightclub slash disco. Uh there is um a piano bar, uh, there's a wine bar, a cigar bar, there's tennis courts, there is a dispensary, uh, the the gift shop that we talked about.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

There's tennis and paddleboard. What's it called? No, uh pickleball.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Pickleball. Uh and they have a spa.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Uh and a gym.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 25:56

And I think that's a oh, and then the um the um yoga studio. What do you call that?

SPEAKER_02 26:02

The uh Karma Sutra Palace.

SPEAKER_00 26:03

Karma Sutra Palace, which depending on the week you're there, may or may not be open. But if it is open, they do these different um like yoga kind of classes and stuff there that you can sign up for.

SPEAKER_01 26:12

Yeah, and I think it's important to mention that this is not a five-story resort. It's an older resort. Now, in my opinion, I feel like it's up kept very well. Like when we walk the ground, you always see people working on landscaping, painting. I mean, they're they're always doing something. Um, but if you are the type of person that really like if you when you travel, you're there for the luxury and like the butlers and uh just like this ultimate five-star, like five-star dining. Hito's probably not for the place for you. Hito kind of reminds me of adult spring break, very much on the lines of like secrets. I think it's elevated from secrets, but sort of that same concept, but on a beach in Jamaica. Um, I don't know what the actual stars is. I'm assuming more like three. Would you I have no idea? I don't I don't know, that would be my guess. Um, it's clean and everyone, you know, and it it's well maintained, but it's definitely not a Ritz-Carlton. Um if if you really are looking for something more along those lines, I would I've never been to Desire, but I would imagine that Desire is something probably more your speed. Or you can always stay at like a sandals next door or something like that, and you can get day passes to come over to Keto if if you prefer nicer accommodations, but it's definitely not a five-star place. And that's okay if if if you're comfortable with that. For me, it's okay, but I understand people have different expectations.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

No, I agree. All right, I think now's the perfect time to take a little break and hear from the partners and sponsors of the Swing Nation podcast, and then when we get back, we'll get you into a little more uh details, maybe talk a little more of the naughty side of Hito when we come back. All right, I'll be right back, guys.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

Dan, if someone is just recently joining the lifestyle and they don't really know where to begin, what do you recommend?

SPEAKER_00 28:12

Well, the lifestyle, you know, it's 2025. And people are on the internet. They are and there just so happens to be lifestyle websites that are dedicated to people connecting in the lifestyle. Yes. SDC happens to be one of our favorites. Over three million users. You can find people in your area, you can find clubs, you can find parties. All of it is right on STC. Um, and you can get a huge discount by signing up with us.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

You can.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

So all you got to do is if you're looking for lifestyle people in your area, if you're looking for the clubs, if you're looking for the parties, go to theswing nation.info. Recommended apps and products, scroll down to the SDC icon. We'll give you a free trial. Yeah. You can check them out. You can see who's in your area, you can see if it's uh if it's the app for you, uh, all completely risk-free. Yes. So just head on over to thingnation.info and get signed up for STC today. Let's see, one thing I don't leave home without when going to a swinger event is my ED medication.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

That is correct.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

Performance anxiety is 100% a real thing. Um, having sex in an orgy room with um a hundred people in there is way different than having sex at home in your bedroom.

SPEAKER_01 29:25

It is.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

Um, so I like to have what we call a little insurance policy and have some of that ED medication in my pocket. Um, shameless care is who I use for that. And they actually just came out with a new product called the Shameless Duo, yeah, which is a combination medicine that has Viagra and Cialis in it, so that one, you can be ready whenever, but also it's got that dose that you can take when you're, you know, as you're getting ready to go to the playroom and you need that to kick in. Yeah. So I love it. I mean, I used it at Hito for the first time, and that that combination. That's basically what I use all the time, yeah. Yeah. So if you're looking for ED medication, if you're new to the lifestyle uh and you're going to an event, you might want to get some and have it just handy in case you need it, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 30:12

And the really cool thing about shameless care is they don't set you up on a recurring plan. So you're not gonna get all of this ED medication that you have in your nightstand built up. When it's time that you need more, you'll get an email from them and they'll ask you, hey, are you ready for another round? And you can respond back, yes, please refill it, or no, I'm good right now. Thank you. So it's really cool because you don't end up with all these extra pills and spend a bunch of money that you're not, you know, you don't need to spend.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

Yeah, and my favorite part is you don't actually have to go into an office and talk to your family doctor or a military doctor. Um, you can do it all right online from the privacy of your home. Uh, you just go to their website, you fill out some forms, the doctor reviews it, approves you, disapproves you, and you move on from there. So if you would like to get some medication, you can go to theswingnation.info, click on the little recommended apps and products, uh, scroll down to the shameless care icon, click on that, and that's going to take you over there. Uh, there's some discount codes there for you, so you can get a discount off your first order. But uh I highly recommend if you're going to some events or parties, go get you some lifestyle insurance. Yeah. All right, guys, check it out. All right, guys. Welcome back, welcome back. Thank you for listening to our sponsors. Lacey loves our sponsors.

SPEAKER_03 31:31

I do.

SPEAKER_00 31:32

Uh, okay, so let's we left off. We just kind of talked about the layout, some of the amenities, the different things that they have on Hito. Uh, so let's touch on a few more topics before we get to the naughty part. Uh, let's talk a little bit about how to how does how do you meet people? How do you make friends at HETO? Kind of give me the lay. Let's go through like what a typical day at HETO uh what transpires.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

Okay, for us, we're not warning people, so we're gonna sleep in. But if you are, that's great.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

You can get up early, go to the gym. Yeah, you can get up early, go get you some breakfast. You can go watch the sunrise on the beach.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

Whatever floats your fancy. Um, so then usually the pool parties start around lunch-ish, one o'clock, um, in the nude pool. When I say pool party, I mean like the entertainment. That's what I'm talking, like DJs, the dancers. They have like an entertainment staff and stuff like that. You can do it.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Start playing the games.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

Yeah, you can definitely go up there earlier. Like if you like the nude pool and you like, you know, that vibe, maybe you're not into the huge party, you could go up there earlier and have kind of the best of both worlds, you know. But probably around lunchtime is kind of where that starts. And honestly, that's where you're gonna meet people is the nude pool. And it's a really fun, it's not a huge pool, so you're kind of forced together almost. And it's a really fun place to bump into people, chat with people. I mean, it that is going to be the primary make out with strangers, make out with strangers, you know, play the games.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

Um take shots off people's boobies, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

They're all you know, all of those things. Uh, that's where that's where the bulk of your interaction will be. Now, that's not to say that you can't go to the prude side and sit and meet somebody there too, but the vast majority of the people will be in the nude pool through the bulk of the day. Yeah. And at some point, people start leaving the pool. You know, it depends. Four or five. So I think they close the pool at like six or seven. Uh so some people will stay until they shut it down. Um, and they do shut it down because they shock the pool. So during dinner every night, they close the pool for a couple hours and they very heavily shock the pool. So all the dirtiness that you did during the day will be gone by the nighttime. During that time, most everybody goes back to their room. They, you know, you can sleep, you can shower shower, you can go fuck somebody in their room, whatever you want to do. But the and and just like any typical swinger party that's day and night, that's pretty much how a lot of the similar, yeah. Yeah, you have that two or three hour, you know, window. You do with it what you want. If you want to be naughty, you need to be naughty. If you want to rest and get ready for the night, you can. Um, and then it's dinner time. And so uh there are a couple of restaurants. You want to talk about food later, or you want to go ahead and talk about food?

SPEAKER_00 34:28

Uh no, I guess since we're going through the flow of the day, that's fine. Yeah, so definitely the pool party is the bulk of the day. Uh, and people get pretty turned up, it gets pretty, pretty energetic. Uh, you know, it's not uncommon to see blowjobs or people fucking uh some of the games they play can be pretty pretty raunchy. Uh but yeah, then it's go take a nap, shower, and then it comes to dinner. So for dinner, there are a few different options.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

Yeah. So um they have an Italian restaurant, they have a hibachi restaurant, they have a steak restaurant. Um, those are the primarily the ones that are open for dinner, as well as a buffet. Now they do have a couple, like they have a grill that's down by the nude pool, but that's not really open during dinner. That's more of a lunchtime and then a midnight snack. Um, so those are primarily the ways that you're going to eat. And they don't take reservations, so you get to choose which one you want to do. And um, so you just kind of first come, first serve. They also have entertainment. So before the show starts, they will usually have a band, a band, a singer, you know, or a combination of the two. And usually around like nine or ten o'clock is when the actual performance happens, and they are local Jamaican individuals that perform and they put on a full show every night. And sometimes they're based around the theme, sometimes they're not. Uh, like for instance, usually there's like a BDSM night. Uh they have like a BDSM kink type show that's really fun. Um, but where you eat in that buffet area is open air and it's covered, it can get quite warm under there. So keep that in mind. Um, but so so that's the next part of the day. You prompt you eat, you can sit with people, you can sit alone, you can, you know, meet you. Hopefully, you've met people at the pool and you all have dinner, you meet at a certain time and have dinner together, and then you watch the show. And after the show, that's kind of where the night splits off. So some people go to the cigar bar, the piano bar, some people go to the disco. Um, it just kind of depends on the vibes, the vibes. I I'm not sure at the exact time that the pool opens back up. I'm thinking it's like kind of late, like 11 or 12. What do you think?

SPEAKER_00 36:49

Is that I don't know what time they open the bar, but it is later. Probably 11.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

So they have to let that shock sit for so long. So that it does reopen. So, like if you don't want to do any of that, there will be like a time that you have to kind of like there's not a whole lot going on.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

Yeah, so the post-dinner and show pre-nude pool opening up, there is uh two or three hours there. And I will say, this is kind of what we've noticed over the years is this is the hardest transition point. Um, because what happens is you've been drinking at the pool all day, and so you get hot and drunk, and then you go back to the room and you take a nap. And so now you're a little hungover and tired. And now you go up to the show and you're watching the show, which looks, I'm not knocking the shows, they're good, they're fun, but when you're maybe a little hungover and tired, they can tend to put you to sleep a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

Well, and you're it's warm now you're eating and you're full, so it you know, you you kind of will lose people in that. So you have to be kind of careful to kind of keep the momentum.

SPEAKER_03 37:45

Energy going, right?

SPEAKER_01 37:46

Yeah. So I recommend going to like the disco or going to the piano bar, something that's gonna like kind of energized. Yeah, different groups have different flow flow and different, like we were talking to somebody the other day, they went with somebody and the disco was dead. Dead. With our group, the disco is pretty busy because a lot of us like to dance with like the DJs and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

So it really just depends on like I'd imagine Sexy Silver probably the piano bar, the piano bar, the cigar, and the I can remember when we went with Tom's trips, the piano bar was seemed like it was the after dinner place to be. Yeah. Uh and the disco was pretty dead. But with uh our group, the Young Lifestyle Week, the the the disco is or the club is pretty busy post-dinner. So it kind of depends on the group, right? Uh and then it post, so then everybody goes from dinner to the either the disco or the piano bar, and then from there to the nude pool. And that, like you said, that opens at 11 or midnight or something like that. What we have noticed is the way we like to do it is if you if we know we are trying to fuck people, if there's gonna be an orgy, if there's gonna be a couple swap, if we know we're gonna have a sex time at night, we like to go from the club to the playroom, then from the playroom to the pool.

SPEAKER_01 38:58

Yeah. We found that like once you get to that pool, especially the hot tub, it's over. It's very hard to transition from that hot tub area to fucking unless you fuck on the side of the hot tub. So we've kind of got caught in that trap a couple of times because like after being up all day drinking, dancing in the sun, you've full now you now I'm full. Now I'm in a hot body of water. It's basically like a recipe to fall asleep. So what we found is if we know for sure we want to fuck, if this is our plan, we will go from the disco to fucking and then we after fucking, then we'll go to the pool in the hot tub and then go to bed. Kind of use that as like our nightcap. And that's what works for us. With that being said, there are still times that we end up at the pool in the hot tub and then not fucking.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

Right, because arranging playrooms is like hurting cats. So sometimes everybody just ends up at the pool, and then there has been times where we've left the pool and went to fuck from there. That's a more difficult move because you do tend to start losing people because you're talking it's midnight, one o'clock in the morning at this point, and so now that's when you start losing people. Yeah, uh, yeah. So my the pro move would be disco playroom pool. Yeah, uh, and get you done, get you some pizza, get you some French fries, uh, have a little snacky snack, and then head to bed.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

Um, would be my recommendation uh for people. So, okay, while we're on the subject, let's talk a little bit about the playroom.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

How does that work? So where is it? What are the rules?

SPEAKER_01 40:26

How do you so the playroom is kind of like on the backside near the spa slash?

SPEAKER_00 40:31

This is a place where if you didn't know where it was, you wouldn't know where it was.

SPEAKER_01 40:34

We do a tour with our people. So hopefully, whatever group you go with gives a tour as well because it's kind of like off the beaten path. You have to kind of find it.

SPEAKER_00 40:43

But if you're looking for it, head towards the tennis courts. It's kind of like stuffed between the tennis courts and the spa.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

So during the day, a lot of the area is the spa, and then at night it kind of flips into the playroom. And it's an open-air playroom, so there's no ceiling on most of it. And there are some smaller rooms that like have air conditioned and stuff like that. There's like a shower area that you can fuck in. And there's like a almost like a dungeon-y type location that that has air conditioned, but most of it is open air, and and then it just has you know orgy beds in the middle, and then you know, single beds on the side. There is no curtains, it's not, it's not like your typical American playroom. It's also very quiet. They it they treat it almost like spa-like. So if you walk in and you're laughing and cutting up or whatever, they will ask you to be quiet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:37

At Lacey's got in trouble a few times.

SPEAKER_01 41:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

Um, but they do have cold plunge pools, which are nice, which have little waterfalls. So, you know, it actually is a pretty cool spot because you walk in there at night, it's all dark. They got some red lights or blue lights in there, and then it's open air and you can hear the waterfall. So it is kind of a romantic kind of little environment.

SPEAKER_01 41:56

It's like a spa-like experience. And then, like fucking under the stars in Jamaica is is top level, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 42:03

Yeah.

unknown 42:04

Night.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:04

You're an international swinger.

SPEAKER_00 42:06

Uh clothes-wise. Can you wear lingerie in there? Yeah, you can. Not a lot of people do, it seems like because you're most people are just naked.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

A lot of people bring robes, and then so you go to your room and then you take your stuff off and you just wear your robe. But I I I'm 99% positive that women can wear lingerie. I think men have to be naked. Um, but most everybody is is in the nude in there. Um, they do have water, they do have towels, um, they do have a shower, they do have cold plunge pools. So it's it's it's pretty nice. Um outside, out right outside, there is a hot tub as well.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

Yes. All right. Uh, and then yeah, that's so you end your night at the playroom, you fuck, and then go to bed, and then it's get up and do the same thing uh the next day. Now, where HETO is a little different than like a secrets or something, uh, is HETO does have some options for excursions.

SPEAKER_01 42:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:59

Uh so that's kind of a way to mix up your day. So what tell me a little bit about excursions?

SPEAKER_01 43:03

Well, let's just talk about things to do outside of fucking and in the pool. Okay. I think that's a good way. So, first of all, there is when you go through the lobby, there are a couple desks and you can you can book excursions. They are they have some vanilla and non-vanilla. So, like the first year Dan and I went because we went ziplining, we rode horses in the ocean. There's lots of different things like that. So, if like seven days of drinking in a nude pole is too much, I highly recommend doing something to kind of break up that. And it and it could be fun to make some friends and all go together. So, you know, then you can take pictures for for each other. So then you have something to put on your vanilla Facebook, stuff like that. Like if you need those type of things, I highly recommend that. Um, they also have the catamaran that usually runs twice a week. Now, if you're going with a group, sometimes they will have special things in addition to the catamaran or catamaran rides for that group. So that may change a little from what you're hearing, but most they do a sunset one, and that sunset one. Takes you to Rick's cafe and then they do a morning one. I think you get on at like 10 or something, and that one is just like a snorkeling cruise.

SPEAKER_00 44:08

Swimming through the cave.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

And um with the exception of getting off at Rick's, you can be completely nude. You can fuck, you can dance, you can drink, you can, it's basically like a nude cruise. Uh of course, if you go to Riggs Cafe, which is a historic like landmark type thing, a good another good place to get vanilla pictures, you will have to put clothes on to get off the boat. But everything else you can be completely nude on. And they're a lot of fun. And it it could be hit or miss. If you're with a good group, you could be fucking, you could be partying. I've also seen them where it's kind of a little bit vanilla. So if you find yours is vanilla, bring it up a notch. Start fucking and see what happens, you know?

SPEAKER_03 44:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

So that's an option. Um, there's also uh right down the road is a market. Now they do bring in souvenirs, so they have some in the gift shop. They also have ladies and gentlemen that set up on the beach that will sell you some stuff. And if you they don't have what you want, if you ask them, they will get it to you. Like my mom always wants a fan from every country, like a to cool you off. And so I asked them, like, can you get me two fans? And she was like, Yeah. And so she the next day I went and she had brought them back. So they can definitely get what you need, but you can also go off property and right down the road, maybe a mile, there is a little market, and it's your typical market in a we usually walk there.

SPEAKER_00 45:28

So if you if you go out of the resort and bang a left, it's just not very far.

SPEAKER_01 45:32

Yeah, we usually take a group, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:33

And now we'd be careful walking around Jamaica, you know, make sure you have a group and make sure you know you're not alone.

SPEAKER_01 45:39

But uh we've never had any issues, it's always been everybody's always been wonderful, but you know, it definitely there's definitely some bartering. They're definitely you you feel bad because they they definitely need your money. They can be a little pushy, they can be, you know. So it's just like any other country that you visit outside of you know, like that. Um another option is lobster island, which is uh a boat ride or canoe or paddle board or however you want to get there.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

It is further than you think it is.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

It is.

SPEAKER_00 46:10

It's a it's so if you go down to the beach and you look out on the water and look kind of to your right, which I guess would be to the west, uh, you'll see an island out there, and that is lobster island. And so there are local Jamaicans on that island that are running these little lobster restaurants. It's questionable if they're running when lobsters are in or off season.

SPEAKER_01 46:30

I think restaurant is a is is a fetch. They're like makeshift huts, and they literally capture the lobsters and then cook them on an open flame right there. So now it's some of the best lobster that you've ever had, but you have to be very, very careful because they will they will take all your money. You will be robbed and not even know you were robbed. Because so, like what we found is we're like, we have $40. You bring us what $40.

SPEAKER_00 46:53

I think that's about $40, $50. I think $40 is about the average price we've paid for lobster. I'm sure there are people that have probably got those same lobsters for $20. Yeah. And there's probably people that have paid $100, but around the $40, $35, $40 seems to be about what they charge you normally.

SPEAKER_01 47:07

So I would say I have this amount of cash. What can you give me? And then let that be it. If you don't, if you show up with $100, they're gonna take $100 of your money. Um, they're always very kind, I mean, they're kind, uh, they're a lot of fun. Um, but yeah, so so yeah, that um that is definitely a place to be. A place to be. Uh the spa is another thing that you could do to kind of break up your week. I highly recommend the massages, and they have like four or five little huts down by the ocean. And you can do a massage out. Literally, you can hear the waves going as you're getting in a couple's massage. Um, I would say get if you don't want to hear music and partying, I would definitely get more towards the nude side because um, I'm sorry, the prude side, because the nude side, you're gonna hear the partying from the nude pool. So, I mean, if that's your vibe, if you want to hear that, by all means get down there. But if you want to get close enough.

SPEAKER_00 48:07

I've heard they've started uh cracking down on the music at night. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:11

Yeah. Well, this is a massage during the day.

SPEAKER_00 48:13

Oh, oh, yeah, you're right. Okay, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 48:15

Um or you could do stuff in the actual spa. Like if you break a nail, they have um, you know, people there that can fix your nails. If you don't want to wash and dry your hair, they can they'll give you a blowout. I mean, pretty much anything you can think of. It's like a full-fledged spa. And you know, we've we've been on a lot of these lifestyle vacations, and mojito is one of my favorites, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

Yeah, it's it's reasonably priced, um and good quality work. Good quality, um, the massages, especially, but even like I think the food, the everything is pretty, pretty good. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:47

So those are your options. I'm sure there's lots more. We've seen people rent a car or take a taxi and go to Rick's themselves. I mean, you can do your typical Jamaica things. Um, those are just gonna be the ones that are right there that are easily accessible from Hito. Can I talk about Sandals next door real quick? Yep. In this so uh a lot of people are not public like we are, and you don't want your families to know that you're going to Hito. Sandals Nigrill is literally you could throw a rock and hit it. Um so a lot of people say they're going to Sandals.

SPEAKER_00 49:19

So if you want to tell your parents or your kids or whatever, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:23

Um you can walk across the property lines and go and take pictures. Dan and I have done it. The workers, they do have security in between the resorts at the beach. They know exactly what you're doing and they don't care. They support it. Um, you can even go to the gift shop at Sandals and buy a shirt if you if you wanted souvenirs to take home. Like it's a it's it's not something to be ashamed of. Everybody knows. You know, the sandals people come over to Hito too. That's how half the people end up being swingers because they see Hito, they get it intrigued. The amount of day passes.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

That started into the lifestyle because they went to sandals in the grill and saw this crazy quest. Is actually shocking.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

Yeah. So it's not uncommon. It's not anything to be embarrassed about. You can definitely put, you know, clothes. We've seen our friends go over there and FaceTime their kids at night. So yeah, it's it's it's not uncommon and non-issue. Yeah, not an issue.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

Uh yeah. So when you walk through with the securities there, just say, uh, go on to take pictures, and they'll they'll wave you right through. No problem.

SPEAKER_01 50:24

And it's funny, sometimes you like because people will see your your wristband and they'll be like, it's the naked people.

SPEAKER_00 50:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:29

So they know it's not a big deal.

SPEAKER_00 50:31

Yeah, take the red wristband off before you take your pictures. Yeah. Just FYI.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

And your name necklace with the HETO bracelet or the HEDO bead on it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:38

Uh okay. Anything else on excursions? All right. So I think we're just about out of time. But lastly, let's talk a little bit about mistakes that first timers make.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 50:49

So what do you got? If you're first time at HETO, what's a common mistake people make?

SPEAKER_01 50:53

Well, I will say the being naked at the nude pool is probably the number one thing that we hear from people. I don't know if I can do be naked. I don't know how comfortable I am. I'm probably gonna start at the prude pool. My advice to you is don't wait. Don't wait. Take those clothes off and get in it. Day one. The truth is we're all naked.

SPEAKER_00 51:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:12

And I would say 90% of the time you are underwater. So for women, your boobs are pretty much out, and men, your dick is floating in the water. Nobody girls are not like got don't have goggles on down there inspecting it. You know, at least most girls. Most girls, you know, there might be a girl that does that because I could see something like that happen in Hito. But for the most part, we all are there, we all have an insecurity or or or more in, you know, there's something about all of us that we want to change. And so you're the quicker you just rip that band-aid off and do it, the better your week. We've met people that were so freaked out, and then by like day three, they're like, okay, I'll do it. And then they're like, oh my God, why didn't I do this? And now they only have four days left of their vacation and they're pissed off that they lost the first three days.

SPEAKER_00 51:56

Yeah, I was gonna say that is the common. We have known several people that have come Tahito with us and that they wait two, three, four days before they venture over to the nude pool and they always regret it. So, yes, definitely get to the nude pool as quick as you feel comfortable. And you're gonna see people of all shapes and sizes, or make yourself a little uncomfortable to get to the nude pool.

SPEAKER_01 52:16

Yeah, by far, there this the percentage of people that look perfect are few and far between. Most everybody or have mom pods or dad bods, stretch marks, or a little overweight, a little couple rolls here and there. Most people look like I can guarantee you the ones that are having the most fun don't give two shits and are just having a blast. Yeah, stretch marks and all. And so you've paid enough for this vacation to just listen. If you go that first day and you hate it, don't you can stay at the prude side the rest of the time. But that would be my advice. Just rip that band-aid off and go for it. And the somebody that has been to Hito is I don't even know how many times now, I still get nervous that first day. Um, but you just got to do it. And then you're like, oh, okay. And by the time you go to leave, you're not gonna want to put your clothes back on.

SPEAKER_00 53:05

Yeah, 100%. All right. Uh so newbie advice for me pace yourself. A lot of people when they go to Hito, they've never been to, you know, they usually just go to, they've only been to like a swingers club for a Friday or a Saturday. They're not used to seven days of lifestyle. Uh so pace yourself. Drink water, take naps, eat food. Uh, you don't have to be necessarily drunk and partying the whole time. And if you try that, most people, when they go to heto for the first time, they'll party hard the first three days and then they'll miss a day. They'll just stay in their rooms for a whole day and just recover. Uh, so if you pace yourself, you won't have to just skip a day and you can kind of slow burn through the whole day.

SPEAKER_01 53:50

That's why I think like bringing up the stuff that you can do outside of the nude pool is important. So, like party hard one day and then maybe the next day get a massage, and then party hard one day, and then maybe the next day go to Lobster Island to kind of break it up, and then party and then maybe do the catamaran. You know what I mean? I think there's like a good balance between the two. Well, that catamaran can be a party too, but you know, also sleep in. Yeah, you know, like not a lot happens before noon. So, or maybe like if you just are like an early riser, maybe just get up and go to the prude side and lay out by by the beach, you know, just you and your partner, uh, listen to the waves, stuff like that. I think it doesn't all have to be party, party, party.

SPEAKER_00 54:29

You get that FOMO. Everybody wants to be at the pool taking shots and making out and just partying hard. I promise you, you cannot do that for seven days.

SPEAKER_03 54:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:40

Uh so you're gonna have to come up with stuff to break it up in the middle.

SPEAKER_03 54:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:44

Uh, and honestly, if you do that, I think you're gonna have a better experience overall. If you go too hard, too quick, you're gonna you're gonna burn yourself out and end up down for a day or two or getting sick, or you know, who knows what. But uh try not to do that. All right, any other advice?

SPEAKER_01 54:58

Um, try not to put too much pressure on yourself. Uh, I say that because the price tag of the trip alone is enough to put pressure on you, right? You know, you're paying, you know, five, six, seven thousand dollars for a trip. Uh you don't want to go and not fuck anybody, right? You know, and like and that could be like you're internally putting that on yourself, not your spouse, not your friends, anything that you could see you'd be like, fuck, we we done flew all the way here. We done made all this money. We I done bought all these outfits. By God, we we we gotta we gotta fuck somebody, we gotta do something. I I did it the first time I went. I still do it. Yeah. Now I you know it's different now because now I'm like, oh, we gotta have something to talk about in the podcast or whatever. But uh go with the flow, you know, don't force anything. Um, you know, do do what feels right, but don't put pressure on yourself because it's then that just makes it harder, you know. Without the pressure, and if you're just going in the flow, things will naturally happen without. But at the same time, you also have to make moves. Like if you see a hot person, you have to be like, you're hot, you want to hang out. You know, you can't just go in and expect that you're just gonna fall into an orgy, you know. You have to get to know people and make things happen. So I think there's like you know, a balance between, you know, getting to know people, trying to make stuff happen with without putting a lot of extra pressure on yourself.

SPEAKER_00 56:17

No, I agree. I think the pressure is a real thing. I also think what you're saying is we've seen it, this is what happens every heto, every bliss cruise, every secrets. Um, the first two or three days, everybody's kind of feeling each other out. And then it's usually the last two or three days, everybody's trying to get it all in. Uh so don't be afraid early on if you want to have an orgy, if you want to do DVP, if you your wife's never had sex with another girl or your wife's never had sex with another guy, putting it out, not actually saying, Hey, you will you fuck me, but putting it out into the universe of, oh yeah, this is you know our first big trip, and my wife's really wanting to, you know, get double teamed sometime this week, without putting it on a person, but just kind of putting it out of the way.

SPEAKER_01 57:00

Well, you could ask somebody, you could say, so do you have any fantasies that you're wanting to fulfill this week?

SPEAKER_00 57:06

Like what's yeah, what's I think the earlier you can get the group talking about those type of things, um, the more fun everybody's gonna have. Um, because everybody's thinking the same things, everybody has all those little naughty thoughts and desires that they're hoping they're gonna get in this week. It just takes people a while to to feel comfortable to share that and then to to take the the risk out of the fear of rejection to put you know, uh put it out there and try to try to make that connection happen. So the sooner you can kind of overcome all that, I think the better week you're gonna end up having.

SPEAKER_01 57:37

I agree.

SPEAKER_00 57:37

All right. Anything else for the Swing Nation listeners? No, I think that's a good thing. HETO attendees. If you like to attend HETO or come with us to any of the other dozens of lifestyle trips and vacations that we go on every year, you can go to swingersociety.net and book yours now. We're gonna be at Naughty, probably uh while you're hearing this. Uh and then we're going to HETO right behind that, and then uh what's uh Eroticon, uh splash takeovers in Atlanta, and then we got secrets, uh, and and then we got um electric pleasures. Yeah. So I mean there's event after event after event coming up. Uh so if if you're you know thinking about dipping a toe or getting yourself, putting yourself out there, swingercity.net, go check out the next event. We hope to see you there. Yep. All right, Lacey, anything else for the Swing Nation listeners? All right, guys, I think with that in a whirl full of apples.

SPEAKER_01 58:30

Be the pineapple.

SPEAKER_00 58:31

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