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Hedo Part 2: The Triad Turns Up

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Hedo Part 2: The Triad Turns Up | Episode 259

The “triad” is back for Hedo Part 2, and this is where the trip really starts to get wild. Daphne, Mike, and Lacy pick up where Part 1 left off as Lacy finally works up the nerve to venture into the playrooms and fully embrace her solo Hedo experience.

From there, things only get more interesting. The three recap a boat day that somehow involves eating Cheetos out of some very creative body parts, unexpected connections, and Mike getting his groove on with a new woman in the club while Daphne and Lacy are along for the ride.

They share the funny, sexy, awkward, and completely unfiltered moments that made this trip one they definitely won’t forget. If Part 1 was the warm-up, Part 2 is where Hedo really starts Hedo-ing.

Grab your headphones—this one gets spicy. 🌶️



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SPEAKER_05

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SPEAKER_02

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SPEAKER_05

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

When we left you, uh and oh, by the way, Daphne and Daddy Mike are still here virtually in the studio with us. We haven't left you guys for week two.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. We've been sitting here.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah. Uh I haven't watched so the we're recording this on a Thursday, so the part one just dropped this morning. Have you guys watched it yet? I haven't watched it yet. Not yet.

SPEAKER_00

I haven't watched it yet, but I've heard people talking about it and was like, You guys are so cute.

SPEAKER_05

We love having you guys on there. But you know, I was thinking about it because we're like sober, and actually, I can't even see y'all. Dan, because I can't see the computer where I'm sitting, but Dan can see y'all. So I didn't feel like it truly captured our friendship. Does that make sense? Yeah. I felt like we were very like uh not formal, but like I don't know. Does that make like we weren't goofing off and being ridiculous? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We weren't being the triad. No, we so you're only friends when you're drinking, is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_05

No, but I mean I definitely think it makes for like a funnier, like my vlogs and stuff. Like when we're a little tipsy, it makes for like funnier shit.

SPEAKER_02

So if this goes to episode three, we all need to I mean Mike was Mike was drinking um wine all in there. One I got fireballs three, we just start doing shots in the back episode off.

SPEAKER_05

So listen. Shot, shot, shot every time we go to bed, we should take a shot. Every time we sleep in, take a shot. Okay. So we left off on Sunday night. So we're gonna pick up on Monday, and we're going to attempt to move this along a little bit. So it I still think we might have to have one more episode after this, but I'm trying.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so Tuesday, let's we had left you. The uh triad had spent the day in the pool. I think Lacey had had people doing shots off her butthole and boobies and other places. Uh you guys went to dinner, did all that. I think you went to the club for a while, but then you were invited to the playroom, but you opted for porn and bed instead.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I think that's where we left you, right?

SPEAKER_05

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_02

All right.

SPEAKER_05

Um, and I wanted to talk about something real quick that we didn't mention. I, you know, I'm not gonna name drop because that's not right. But there was a was it like, would you say it was like a C-list celebrity uh at Alpeto this trip? And I'm not sure what day he wasn't there the whole week. It was a male, I guess I should say that. Um, he wasn't there the whole week, but he did come in at some point. And I know people are gonna be like, Well, how do you mention it, but not tell I can't, I'm not gonna be that that swinger that outs another swinger, right?

SPEAKER_02

The celebrity, he's like TikTok famous.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, well, yeah, so it was a meme, or it was a meme that like went viral, and so I didn't even recognize him. Uh Sean and Stacey, Sean actually recognized him, and he ended up just going up and asking him like point blank, yeah, if it was him, and he was like, Yeah, it is. So, but then as a group, we like researched it, so you know, everybody has their names on their necklaces. So we ended up Googling that meme, figuring out his real social media, and confirmed that that actually was in fact the same name. So it really was this person. Um, so I so Sean and well walked, I was like, you know, I was texting you, and I'm like, oh my god, this person's here. And so uh Sean went and just like introduced me to him, and I'm like, oh my god, you're a swinger, you know? And he was like, Oh no, we're not swingers, we just fuck um single unicorns. And I was like, that that's a swinger. I think I did say, I think I did say my husband's not here, which I know is against like that. Was technically against the rule, but like on it, low-key, if you wanted to fuck, I probably would have had to call you and be like, babe, it's a good story for the podcast.

SPEAKER_02

It would have been a well, I don't know if you would have told it.

SPEAKER_05

But I wouldn't have told who he was. I'm still not gonna tell you who it was, but it's that just shows you you never know who you're gonna run into at one of these parties. You never know. Um, because we've always like heard rumors and like heard things about people, you know, but we've never actually like seen anybody. Like, for example, we heard Diddy went to a club one time. He like walked in, basically did a loop and then left.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, which I don't know if that's bragging rights at this point.

SPEAKER_05

I don't know. I mean, it's kind of a shit, yeah. But I mean, like, we've heard like that. No, but I mean, like, just stuff like that. We've heard stuff, so like to actually see someone, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I've heard about like football players or different, you know, celebrities walking that I wasn't usually it's like club club owners and stuff. Like you were never told about this person, yes.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I showed you the meme, and but well did you okay?

SPEAKER_05

You didn't think it was very nice. Well, no, he wasn't. He definitely came off as like a pretentious prick. I mean, I mean uh that sounds mean, but he definitely came off.

SPEAKER_03

I'll have to ask Daphne later. Yeah, she'll show it to you.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, he was around us the whole week, Mike. So I don't know how you missed that, but um he definitely came off as like he was better than everybody, like almost like he doesn't let his wife fuck guys, but he gets to fuck bitches, which is like yeah, uh, you know, it's like ugh, you know. Anyway, I thought about it after we did the podcast the other day, and I was like, we have to mention that. Don't ask me who it is, though, people. I'm not gonna tell you.

SPEAKER_02

Don't ask her. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna tell you see that shows because if you didn't like you would out, you wouldn't you would be like, it was this guy, and he was an asshole. Like if you just wanted like the clicks, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

No, I don't want the clicks. I I just see somebody, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because we the last trip we were on, we saw somebody, remember?

SPEAKER_05

No, the girl, the girl, oh yeah, but she wasn't a swinger. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, she was just on a cruise. Yeah, she was just on she was we saw we did a excursion, she was a TikTok. Uh she's famous on excursion and she was there, but she was not, she was on a different, she was not on the swinger cruise, right? Right, yeah. Okay, so now we can start.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so now what we're on Monday.

SPEAKER_05

We're on Monday, okay. Yeah, so Daphne and I got up, and Mike, of course, was eating breakfast, and we actually met eating his breakfast and drinking his coffee in peace. Yes, we actually met him up there because I had a massage at 11. So that because of that, I had to get up, you know, a little bit earlier and go have breakfast, which honestly, I don't eat breakfast at home, and like I love like that omelet bar at Hito. Oh, yeah. I don't like a lot of Hito's food. If I had one criticism of Hito, it definitely is a food, but I do really like that omelet bar and the pasta bar.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, any bar where you custom make your food.

SPEAKER_05

It's like freshly made, like if you could get that's where it's at at Hito. Uh so I went and got my massage at 11, which is funny because I mentioned to Dan I was gonna get a massage, and he was like, Wait, you're gonna you're gonna go without me. I was like, Fuck yeah, I am. Did you really think I wasn't gonna go get a massage?

SPEAKER_02

No, I just thought like a couple's massage on the beach was like a couple thing.

SPEAKER_05

I didn't know that was a get a massage on the beach. This is the first time I did it inside. Uh I thought it would be like a different experience to talk about. Uh honestly, I really liked it because um it was so fucking hot there that it was really nice being inside. Yeah, sure. I could hear like there's like a waterfall or like the the pools in the spa slash playroom area, and whatever room I was in was right outside of that, and so the whole time I was trying to figure out if it was raining, if it was storming, or if it was that waterfall, so it was nice because I got to like hear it. It didn't, it didn't, uh it didn't, but I did an 80-minute massage, it was really good. I did like the de stress one, it was really nice. So after my massage, I went straight to the Karma Sutra Palace because I didn't realize that they have Karma Sutra massages when I did the tour.

SPEAKER_02

Somebody was talking about you went from your massage to another massage.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I was going to book another massage, okay. So I had looked it up definitely did not tell me this part, okay. Well, because I didn't I didn't end up doing it. They so they have what's called like a four-hand massage, so you get two people massaging you, and it's two girls at the same time. And I thought I've never done anything at the Karma Sutra place. This would be really good to like talk about it for the podcast, and because I only got one massage, and technically, when you're there, it's usually like two massages, so you're within budget, yes, even though it was a little bit pricey.

SPEAKER_02

That is some girl math, girl math. So I walked Dan's not here, so I only paid for one massage, so I should really book a second massage basically, yes, because we saved all this money, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

That's what I was thinking. Glad you understand where I was coming from. So I walked to the Converseatrip House, which I had never even been in there. It's actually really cool, and um, they did not have any openings. Well, they had like one at like nine in the morning, and we had to get on the catamaran at 10. And I was afraid that would be cutting it. But I definitely they do a couples massage too. So I definitely think next year that's uh a four-handed massage. No, that just a single was uh yeah, because if I think there's only two karma suture people, so that you need one for each. So maybe next time we could do that at something different, but I heard good things about it, and apparently they were very busy. So who knows? What were what did y'all do when I did the massage? Do you remember? I think you were at the beach.

SPEAKER_00

Is that the pool? We were each of the pool, we would go back and forth.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I think you were at the beach because when I got done, we um we took some pictures. Remember, I went down there and then I just took my I didn't have a bathing suit on or anything, but we like getting like nude pictures on the beach, you know, there's not a whole lot of things.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's right, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_03

We did a bunch of picks, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

So I took my like romper off and pulled my hair down, and we had us a whole photo shoot on the beach, which if you like pro tip, if you're going to Hito, if you go to the prude side and it's early-ish in the day, you can usually take pictures and nobody.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like there's hardly anybody on the prude side anytime of the day. There's not.

SPEAKER_05

There's not.

SPEAKER_02

You can usually always find a blank section of beach during the day.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. But you you had, I think Daphne had already been taking some pictures and doing some stuff. So I was like, oh, I gotta, I gotta do it. Yeah, but after that, we went to our room, we got ready for the pool. I'm assuming we had we went after um, we did go after lunch, and then we went had lunch, then we went to the pool. So this is where Daphne was being antisocial. This is when you were sitting on the chair because you didn't like the the pool.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah. With all the like slingy things going everywhere.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yes, the ducks, the ducks, and the and then you I think at some point you move to the beach. You like Daphne, you like the beach much better.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. I definitely like the beach more than the the pool.

SPEAKER_05

Which if another criticism I have of Hita, it's not Hita's fault, it's our fault. We tend to stay in the pool the whole time, and I do genuinely really enjoy the beach as well. So I kind of hate that we do that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we hung out at the beach with the floaties and just and people would come in and out.

SPEAKER_00

We had several conversations with um couples just coming out there too, just to kind of get away from all the the craziness of the pool. They'd come out there to kind of pool, and then you know, we talk to them and they go back in. So it was it was kind of nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Sure was so I got drunk. I was leading the Congo line through the pool. Uh, I mean, I I was pretty tipsy. I was definitely feeling I think most of the days that I ended up getting drunk, you you left, y'all left.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, so you left her unsupervised.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I would leave and then I would stay and get drunk was basically what happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But but it was fun. I didn't I think I only really got drunk like two times at the point.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think you were out of control drinking.

SPEAKER_05

Oh no, no, I was just feeling good, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And to be fair, for you, that's like three drinks.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. But honestly, for me too, it was for me, not that it was a big deal, but I also wanted to kind of give you your space, you know. I didn't want to just feel you to feel like that had to be there, what you were doing the entire time, you know. So I did try to be, you know, go and do my thing, let you do your thing, you know.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I felt that way about y'all too, because even if you've been there to help me, it's still a vacation for y'all. Mike still had to take off work, you know. So, like we had kind of us three had had that conversation before we even like left. Like, if y'all want to go do something and I want to go do something, that is absolutely fine. Absolutely. The only time I really wanted y'all around, like I didn't want to go by myself was like the playroom. I wanted y'all to be with me just because I felt like I needed like a person. Not that like some of our other friends could have done that for me, but I just knew I felt more comfortable with y'all being there.

SPEAKER_03

No, they couldn't have done it for you.

SPEAKER_05

Only this so we went back to the room and rested, of course, watched our porn, and then so we got ready for the night. So this night was the Jamaica themed night. So basically, you just wear Jamaica colors or a flag or something. Um, on this night, I we had the buffet. Um, I'm never a really big fan of this night, uh, the food-wise, because it's they serve a lot of local Jamaican uh food dishes. I think I found something, you know, probably a probably the pasta bar. I know that they had like lobsters. I think Daphne and Mike y'all both had some lobster that night. It was okay.

SPEAKER_02

You're not a you like chicken, but not on the bone chicken. Yeah, I love jerk chicken. That's like one of my favorite things about going to um Tajito is eating all the jerk. I eat jerk chicken like all day long. Yeah, but um you are not a fan of that.

SPEAKER_05

I think the flavor of the jerk chicken. I just like you said, I don't like to eat meals uh uh chicken off the bone. So like if they had like jerk chicken fingers, you and you and Daphne, yeah, like pulled chicken. I would love that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, um kids menu chicken.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. This night we watched the show, and then right after the show, we went down and watched the fire show, which I was worried they weren't gonna do it because it I think it rained. Because like we've been there where they've done the whole dinner on the beach. They did not do that this time, they it was up because of the rain. So, but they were able to do the fire show, which was good.

SPEAKER_02

Um, because usually on Jamaica night they do it down on the beach, they put a bunch of tables on the beach, and and in the past they've even put like a full stage and a band and all that down there. So they didn't have any of that. They didn't do any of that. Did they do the Jamaican band on the main stage then?

SPEAKER_05

No. Oh, I don't know. Maybe they might a lot of times the bands and stuff will play like before the show. And I didn't, I didn't we weren't there for that, so they may have and we missed it. I'm not sure. Uh so the club was not open this night, which sucked, but we they were doing a volleyball game in the prude pool. So it ended up being we actually, I think me and Daphne talked about it. We actually really enjoyed this night because we just kind of sat by that pool, which honestly, why we're not using that pool more often, I don't know, because that is by far the best pool at heating.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, it's nice.

SPEAKER_05

So we sat out there and they brought like a huge ass speaker out there. So I love you know, the music was great. We all sat, it was like so. Like a lot of the my frisky business people were playing volleyball, but like a lot of our people were kind of like to the side, and we just sat out there for like we normalize going to the prude pool after the club instead of the nude pool because that is such a mutter location. We actually used the prude pool a couple of times, like still hot.

SPEAKER_02

Well, there is a little hot tub off the side.

SPEAKER_05

There is, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, but it's a couple of time, yeah. Um, and then it was somebody's birthday at like midnight, so we went up and like everybody did a shot. I mean, it was it was a really fun night, and you'll be so proud because at one point Daphne's like, which is funny because Daphne's like, I don't like, I don't want to play much, I'm just enjoying my time, and then all of a sudden she did the Dan and like rallied the truth. She was like, uh, can we go to the playroom or something? And I was like, I know, okay, I was so and it was late. I mean, it was probably like it was after midnight. It's probably like 12 30 or so.

SPEAKER_01

Was she drunk? Yes, yeah, or did she not drunk?

SPEAKER_05

She wasn't drunk, she was feeling good. Okay, this is this is what I did, which I don't know, people probably give me shit about this. Me and her were sharing a drink, and I kept noticing she kept getting my drink. So I looked at Mike and I was like, Hey Mike, will you go get us one more drink? So that this was our second drink. So we run and we shared the first one, and he was like, Well, I was like, just trust me. And that's what it took, huh? She just needs a she just needed a little liquid current, it worked, and she was no she was not drunk for the record, but she just needed a little a little push. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02

And we can delete this if you don't feel comfortable, but you are also now on pellets, correct, Daphne?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I am. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And uh, how has that affected your libido?

SPEAKER_00

I don't think it is to where it needs to be, but it's definitely better than it was.

SPEAKER_02

So it took mine a couple of where it needed to be when I when you guys came back.

SPEAKER_05

Well, but once you get started, once I feel like and Mike, you could probably like like it, it's not so high that she's like ready to go, but like once you like kind of get her started, then she's gone. Yeah, she's ready, she's ready to like yeah, all night, yeah, basically.

SPEAKER_00

That's yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, which it took, like I said, it took me a couple of times to like get it dialed in because they go kind of low in the beginning, just so that way you right.

SPEAKER_02

You don't want to go too high right off the bat.

SPEAKER_05

So we go to the playroom. Um, I was nervous. I you know, I FaceTimed you before we went.

SPEAKER_02

You probably text me no less than 52 times asking me if I was okay.

SPEAKER_05

Like, okay, Dan, we got are you sure? Are you sure? You were like, I'm sure you were like, who's gonna be there? Who, you know, who of our friends that you know?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I think you were like, I don't know who's gonna be there. It's the playroom. I'm like, I don't mean who's like who all in the entire resort's gonna be there. I'm like, just out of our friend group, who's going?

SPEAKER_05

Yes. So I fucked one of our friends. Uh, I'm not gonna say who it is, uh, but he knows who it is, and his wife, his beautiful wife, knows. Um, he I think he was excited to be the first guy that I fucked. I mean, I'm not trying to call him out or like say like I don't blame him. Yeah, honestly, like I remember a few years ago I fucked one of our friends without his wife there, and it made I was proud, you know. I was proud that they trusted me to do that, you know. Um, so I get that. Um, so but yeah, I mean, pretty it it pretty quickly me, him and I started engaging and we fucked, but but that was it. Like I just fucked him and that was all. I think Mike, did you say that at one point you came over and you were like, What are you doing? Yeah, I didn't mean to like I guess I put off vibes that I wasn't interested. I didn't mean to, I just was like, Okay, I did it, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you you're good.

SPEAKER_05

Lacey was like, I'm good, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_03

And I was like, okay, because Charlotte, I mean, Daphne was like, go go go over to Lacey, and I'm like, okay. So it's like, but I knew that you were like, okay, you were going to do certain things, and if it worked, it worked. If it didn't, it didn't.

SPEAKER_00

And yeah, well, I was kind of so like I think we had talked about doing member some things, yeah. And so I that's what I was kind of trying to get him to go try.

SPEAKER_05

But I think I was just like so nervous, like, yeah, okay, I did it. Because then I was like, okay, so now I've now I fucked somebody without Dan. You know, now I've got to tell him, even though he knew I was about to do that. But like, I then I wanted to see, like, okay, Dan, how you know, which you know, just uh we can go back to the rest of the playroom experience. But like after we left, I text Dan like three times and he didn't respond. I'm like, hey, hey, and finally to call him, pick. Like playing with his AI, he's like, What? I'm like, You okay? I did it. I fucked. And he was like, Yeah, I'm fine. I'm like, Oh, okay. It was almost like I needed to do it and have that reassurance so that way I could like you're like testing the water, yeah. Because, like, if it was me and I was not at Hito and you were there and you went in and fucked like five girls, I would be like, Oh, five, you know, like to me, one was like a safe, you know, one or two was like a safe.

SPEAKER_02

It's so funny because you definitely have thought about all this more than I did. Yeah, which is like kind of crazy that you that's that I mean, I again I think that's the story of our relationship, though, is you have you know, even early on, like we were completely open, and I was like, Yeah, cool.

SPEAKER_01

And you were like, I don't know if I can do this.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, basically. So, Daphne, how was your playroom experience? Daphne and Mike, how was y'all's playroom experience that night?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it was good. It was good. I think let's see, did I I think I only I could think of two. Okay. Oh, sorry, Mike. Yeah, three total that night. So yeah, yeah, yeah. It was good. I mean, I had fun.

SPEAKER_02

So was the group a mix? Was it all like a friend group, or was it a mixture of new couples and friend groups?

SPEAKER_03

Well, there was a couple other couples that were there. We didn't play not like in the orgy, yeah. Not not in our like no group.

SPEAKER_02

I think they were there, they were there, but we didn't no out of the people that who were like engaging in the orgy, was it all people that we had kind of known, or were there some new people a couple of other people, but we didn't know and keep in mind it's only Monday.

SPEAKER_05

So, like we just barely like like we talked about the pilots up, they might have been in there. I honestly don't know, but it's like it took us a couple of days to like get to know them. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Now the rest of the group, I don't know if we talked about this. The rest of the group, not you and and Daphne and Mike, uh were going to the playroom almost every night. They were so there was probably some chemistry. There was some others.

SPEAKER_03

There were some frequent flyers in there.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, I was good.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_05

That was it. So we went where Dan would have made us go to the pool. We went we us three went to bed.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Uh you said you never went to the pool post.

SPEAKER_05

Not the neutral. Nope.

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

Which honestly, I did not. I know that you are good, you like that, but honestly, like one thing you need to heat up is sleep. You know, you're exhausting by that eighth day, you're fucking exhausted.

SPEAKER_01

Even if you go to bed at 10 a.m., you don't get up till 10. So you get sleep.

SPEAKER_00

But it was so hot there. I'm telling you, it drained the life out of us.

SPEAKER_05

It did. And we probably didn't get done until almost 2. 1:30 or you know. So then you want to go to the pool for two.

SPEAKER_02

No, two o'clock's time. And this is where we've made this mistake in the past is what happens is you go club pool and then playroom. So I think club, playroom, or whatever, you know. So the pool will drain your ass. Yes.

SPEAKER_05

Especially that hot tub.

SPEAKER_02

Everyone ends up at the hot tub usually at at night, and uh that will take you out.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Okay, so let's move on to Tuesday. Uh, we had early morning on Tuesday because Tuesday is the catamaran. Um, so we got up and we had breakfast. Something different that we did this year was normally we take anybody that books with us gets a swag bag, and in that swag bag, they have a shirt. So normally we take a picture in the evenings, and to me, it's always been like a pain in the ass to get everybody together because people are on different time schedules for eating dinner, basically. So when I had uh Mandy who works with us, I had her change our schedule, and we did it right before the catamaran, which was perfect because it took them forever to load. We had three um catamarans again, it was crazy. So it took them like 45 minutes to load all of us onto there. So we had plenty of time to get everybody's picture and plenty of people to take the picture and all of that. So I think that's something like that.

SPEAKER_02

Or did they load the catamarans on the beach or did they load them on the dock?

SPEAKER_05

No, they walked in the water.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's right. Yeah, that would be my only concern is they'd like parked the catamarans right behind the that it doesn't matter. You can't but then they'd be in the picture. If they parked it on the dock behind the sign, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

But I mean, there's so many people standing there, it's not that big of a deal. You know, I get if it's just like one girl sitting there trying to take a hot, sexy picture, but when you've got 30, 50, 40 people, it doesn't really matter. And also, it's really just we don't ever post that picture on social media, it's more of just like a memento. So who cares if there's a catamaran? So we got on the catamaran.

SPEAKER_02

Three catamarans.

SPEAKER_05

Three. We were on the yellow boat.

SPEAKER_02

So I think last year when we did that, it was like the first time they'd ever had three or something, right?

SPEAKER_05

So yeah, three.

SPEAKER_02

So we're setting that that's becoming a standard, I think.

SPEAKER_05

Pretty much everybody goes. Um the catamaran was a lot of fun. A few highlights that I could point out. One, I for the first time ever got the drilldo, which if you don't know, it's like a party marked play toy. It's literally like a drill that they have like attached a dildo to. Attached a dildo to.

SPEAKER_02

How to drill a uh a reciprocating saw. Okay, yes, it doesn't spin in circles, it goes in and out, right?

SPEAKER_05

Well, they call it the drill toe. They call it the drill to uh Justin did that to me, which is you know, highlight and it was funny because when we So buy frisky business judgment, yeah. And so when I got down there, he said, Well, if you don't squirt, I'll make you do it later. Oh, I was like, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Did you squirt?

SPEAKER_05

I did, but I was like, if you should have held that shit back.

SPEAKER_02

What I mean, come on, girl.

SPEAKER_05

What the listen, I like I was putting on a show for the people. So he was doing it to me, and I was like, if you pull it out, I'll squirt. And he pulled it out, and I squirt her everywhere.

SPEAKER_02

So who this is gonna be funny, but who all then was on your boat?

SPEAKER_05

Well, Justin, Jess, and Mark rotated um on ours was pretty much all of our people, right? And then uh Joe, Wandepa and Allie were on it.

SPEAKER_02

Um so it's like our crew. That's why I was surprised when you said Justin was on your boat.

SPEAKER_05

Business topless people were on ours too. Like uh the girl that always takes the picture, she was on it. There was a lot of our people, I mean those people on there as well.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I definitely think because you would think there'd be like a mark boat, like a Lacey boat, and then like a my frisky boat, but yeah, but what does uh often happen is my we all end up on the same boat because all our friends.

SPEAKER_05

Well, so every stock they moved, Justin, Jess, and Mark. So on the way back, which is like really when we're turning the most up, is when they were on ours. I gotcha. So I did that, and then they have these like off-brand snacks on the boat, and they have like Cheetos, and at some point everybody's like eating Cheetos. We've had oddly enough, we've had some strange stories with Cheetos on the catamaran in the past. Well, somehow it was like put it in your ass, and Jess will eat uh the Cheetos out of your ass.

SPEAKER_02

Is that I'm assuming that's for girls or cheeks, guys or girls or both? Me, you oh, just you and you did it too, Mike.

SPEAKER_05

Didn't you eat one out of my ass as well? Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_02

It was it became uh put Cheetos in Lacey's ass and eat it.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, not the whole, just the cheese.

SPEAKER_02

It was a it was like a Cheetos ball, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

So that was another highlight.

SPEAKER_02

Is that just so it was just Jess and Mike, or is it others? The whole boat joining in here.

SPEAKER_05

Or doing it, those are who did it to me, basically, those are who did it to me. Okay, um, another thing is my frisky business had a flag this time, yes, and which was actually really cool. And at some point, one of the boat attendance guys, one of the hands, got on the roof of the boat and waved it. Well, if you know anything about Allie and Wandy, but she is an amazing pole dancer, and she's like very flexible. And it's funny, anytime that something's going on, I'm like, Allie, do the splits, and she does this like I don't know why, but it yeah, like anytime. So at some point, I was like, Allie, you should totally get on that roof and do the splits. So she snuck up there why the flag eye, and she's like bouncing, it was so hot, she got in trouble. Yeah, but it's funny because we got the video, we got the video and the pictures before, and we got the video in the video.

SPEAKER_00

You can see the guys like but you gotta tell them they announced it, they announced over the the intercom. Please do not climb, do not climb on the roof of the boat.

SPEAKER_05

I don't think honestly, I think they did that probably so a whole bunch of people didn't get up there. I don't really think she she didn't hurt anything, but I do get from like like a legal standpoint isn't rated for correct, she had like dozens, but it didn't matter because we got our photo, we got our video, that's all that mattered. But it was funny because like our joke the whole week was there's a guy um with green hair, he says a mohawk, and that's kind of the my frisky business mascot. Our joke is Allie is our mascot, the swing or saddle mascot.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, oh yeah, no, I agree. Uh, I do like the the flag idea. So, like you know, uh Daddy Mike knows in the military they have guidance, which is like the unit like you know, symbol that you kind of keep out front. So I like that we need like a swing nation, you know, flag or or swing or side, whatever, so that when we go to these events, like I can see it like secrets putting in front of our cabana, and then like you know, at Naughty marching in the parade with it or oh yeah, that'd be cool. Even like when we go to clubs, like just post it at the VIP that we're in, you know, like we're here and plant our flag.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, Daphne and Mike. Is there anything else about the catamaran that we didn't talk about that you don't remember?

SPEAKER_00

I clogged the toilet on the boat.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_04

But I had to clean it out.

SPEAKER_00

So I had to go to the bathroom and I didn't realize that they said that you could not flush, you couldn't put toilet paper in there from some some you didn't follow the directions, I didn't understand. So then so I did that. I put it in the back. Didn't you read the sign that was on the wall? I thought it meant like sanitary stuff.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't know you couldn't read it, it was in the Jamaica. It is not nautical.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm like, oh my gosh, I cannot get the toilet to go down, and so I had to come up there and get Mike to come down and flush the toilet for me.

SPEAKER_03

It wasn't just flushing the toilet.

SPEAKER_02

How did you come up and get Mike and go back down there without somebody else trying to go? How did we do that?

SPEAKER_05

I don't know, but thank God when we um got her off the boat, right, to go uh snorkeling. Yes, then yes, there wasn't a lot of people on the boat.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, and so I didn't do it right, I didn't have to go right away. So anyway, so Mike had to come in there and fish stuff out.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so what's even funnier is we had to go back to the bathroom. I had to go back to the bathroom later, and she went with me and it was clogged again.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't do it somebody else had done it.

SPEAKER_05

Somebody else had it. Like I had to pee so bad that I was like, Well, I'm just gonna go on top of the clog.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, she did, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I went on top of it, and then we're sitting, we come back up and they announce over the speaker, please do not clog with paper towels in there or whatever. Uh-huh. Yeah. We were dying. And I was like, Mike, this is that is true love. If you had to dig stuff out of the toilet to see your wife, but not Dan doesn't love me that much.

SPEAKER_00

I can tell you. I'm telling you, I have bathroom anxiety when I go somewhere. I yeah, anyway.

SPEAKER_03

So no, I have bathroom anxiety. She goes anywhere.

SPEAKER_00

So that was my my moment.

SPEAKER_05

Obviously, she went on a catamaran in the middle of the ocean.

SPEAKER_02

So I've used those toilets before, just to pee though.

SPEAKER_05

I have two. I've never went number two on the number one. Um, anything else that you could think of?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so the first stop on the the catamaran is snorkeling. Yeah, did anybody go snorkeling?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, you all yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't know the whole boat but Daphne. Everybody but Daphne went on.

SPEAKER_05

I didn't snorkel honestly. I was so hot I needed to cool off. Yeah. So because waiting on standing out there waiting to get on that catamaran, like honestly, we were probably out there for like a solid hour because we got out there a few minutes before 10 to take that picture, and it took a solid 45 minutes. Yeah, and even with the boat moving and stuff, it was still really, really hot. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

All right, so then from there you went to the caves again. Okay, did you swim through the cave? No, did you get in the water?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I did. Yeah, I was gonna swim through the cave, but like because there were three boats, ours were the furthest away from it. And I thought I got about halfway and I was like, fuck that. Yeah, so I went back, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you're uh you you ran out of endurance, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I was like, Nah, I've done it enough times, and I don't have anybody to hold on to.

SPEAKER_02

She doesn't have she doesn't do cardio. There has been times where I think she just like held on to me and I swam through the gate. Basically, like drank for her. Yeah, and she always freaks out like when you get to where the the ceiling's low part of it.

SPEAKER_05

It makes you panic.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, she's like, Get me out of here.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. I got really sunburned on the catamaran. And I even put like a decent amount of sunblock on, like to the point where I had like a necklace sunburned from like where my name necklace was. It was and I don't I don't burn that often, so that's saying something like that. I got burned.

SPEAKER_02

Um, catamaran, that trip is always one of the highlights for me of the it was agreed.

SPEAKER_05

Um, but by the time we got back, it was just so it was so hot on that boat. Yeah, and the line to get drinks was so long, but because I didn't have a husband to get me one, I would like find somebody in line of like, hey, get me a rum punch. I was not gonna stand in that line. Yeah, it worked. Yeah, uh then what so we we came back and like we were all hungry because it's like you know, after lunch at this point, but uh we were I was like, y'all, I am so hot, there is absolutely no way I could go in and eat right now. Like I've got to cool off my body. So we went back to the ramp and I actually went ahead and just like showered and washed my hair and everything. I was just gross. And then once we cooled off a little bit, then us three went up and had like a late lunch. Um and about the time we were finishing up, and it started raining like pretty good. And I think the pool party was like two to four or four to six or something like that. And party mark and them were texting me, you know, to send it out to everybody that it there was a rain delay, and I'm like, okay, and I'm thinking there ain't no fucking way I'm going out there, you know, like the boat, and I and because I was really sunburned, the sun just like really wiped me out that day, but um, and of course it's glow night, and I feel like that happens at Hito, it happens on Bliss. The glow night is always on like the busiest day or when you're doing like yeah, on Bliss, it's always like uh Yeah, they had a beach party day and then glow night that night.

SPEAKER_02

It's like that's too much. Yeah, you do the catamaran, that should really just be like a normal club night, not necessarily the yeah, one of those those like chill nights where we're just sitting around the pool or something, right?

SPEAKER_05

Uh, because glow night is like my favorite. Um, on this night we had hibachi again. Uh, we had a different guy, um, it took forever. So, what we would do, this has been our our trick, Dan. So we would put her name down and they would say like 45 minutes. So then we would go to the piano bar and there would be nobody in there, but like usually there was a bartender, but nobody else. So we basically had the place to ourselves and we would just sit around and chat. That's how if you saw like on one of my my vlog, uh friend Sean was behind the bar, like we ended up making friends with the bartender.

SPEAKER_02

So you would go and hang out for 20 minutes, thing like 20-30 minutes and come back, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

So then because hibachi, because they have all those grills and stuff, it's air conditioned, but it just is not as cool. And there's like a bunch of like recliners and like or like a circle bench thing, so we all would just sit in there and wait, and it worked. But then we went to hibachi, and this is the night of the wine glass.

SPEAKER_03

The wine glass. Oh, shut your mouth.

SPEAKER_00

The wine glass, yes.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so it's time to take a break. We should take a break and then come back. You gotta hear Mike's wine glass debacle.

SPEAKER_01

What should do with the wine glass, Mike?

SPEAKER_05

You gotta wait and come back and hear it. And I was also molested by egg. So true.

SPEAKER_02

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SPEAKER_05

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SPEAKER_05

You've kind of pretty much switched to that, haven't you?

SPEAKER_02

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SPEAKER_05

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SPEAKER_05

Tell the wine glass story, and then Daphne and I will chime in because it's yeah. Go ahead, Mike.

SPEAKER_03

You want me to tell the wine glass story? You want me to tell the debacle of wanting okay? So I like to drink wine out of the appropriate wine glass for the appropriate wine. So red wines are a bigger, what they call goblet, right? Like this.

SPEAKER_02

If you're on YouTube, you can see him holding up his goblet. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

My wife is making fun of me. Anyways, they give these thicker, stouter, smaller glasses.

SPEAKER_05

They're plastic, aren't they? They're 90%.

SPEAKER_03

No, they're not plastic, they're still glass, they're just thick. And it's like, I'm sorry, but and I'm not a wine snob, like no, I'm not. No, I'm not. This is worse than me.

SPEAKER_02

So they're all definitely worse, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. So I was just like, I saw this couple, and they had a like a wine cup. They had the right. They were at the bar, and I said, Hey, can I get our waiter our uh different wine glass like damn? And like then another person came over and was like, Well, you know, no, it was definitely a debacle. They told you now. We can give you this other one, which was a little different, but it was still a thick, it just something about I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

So as Lacey said, go ahead with your statement.

SPEAKER_02

It shows a debacle.

SPEAKER_00

No, well.

SPEAKER_05

What was so funny about it is when he asked, like normally at Hito or any of these places, it's everything is like, what can they do to make you know, whatever you need, they will whatever you need. They're like, no problem, no problem, no worries. We got you.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's the wine glasses.

SPEAKER_05

This is the only thing at Hito that I've ever seen be a problem. Like it was they had to bring two or three people over to figure out what he was even talking about. And I think the lady even went to the wine bar to ask them for a glass, and she finally was like, You can only get that glass in the wine bar.

SPEAKER_03

If you buy a bottle of wine in like whatever.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, so in order to get that wine glass, you had to have the girl at the bar drinking buy a bottle of wine. She probably did, and they probably walked over with a glass, is what we're thinking.

SPEAKER_03

But yes, you had seen that couple before.

SPEAKER_05

You had to be there. Um, it's just it's hilarious. And Mike was like not okay about this. And like we were like giving him so much shit because we're like, you can't taste the notes, the woodsy notes on the wine glass, and this plastic. Well, it wasn't plastic, it's this little piece of shit glass.

SPEAKER_03

It's plastic, it was glass. It's like you could throw this thing across the ground and it wouldn't break.

SPEAKER_00

The odiness of the odiness.

SPEAKER_03

What are you talking about? The odiness.

SPEAKER_02

Can't tell if this grape's from from California or France. Fucking glass.

SPEAKER_05

I kind of yeah, the whole week gave him shit about the wine glasses. So our joke is next time we go to Hito, I'm gonna buy a wine glass that's already like in the pack, you know, like where you could. Yes, yes, I got it.

SPEAKER_03

Purposely ride the wrong one.

SPEAKER_05

I know I should give him the wrong one to be fuzzy.

SPEAKER_02

But don't worry, Mike, I got your glass, and then give him the thick one.

SPEAKER_00

Mike is totally minimizing this right now, but it was an issue. It was a full-term ordeal. Like he was real mad?

SPEAKER_03

Like he was big mad? It was an issue. Like just ask a fucking question.

SPEAKER_00

Then when they went to another one, you were still not happy. Well, because it wasn't like this.

SPEAKER_05

It was just funny. And at this point, Mike, in my opinion, gets drunker or acts different when he's on red wine than like if he just has a beard. It's a different, it's a different like it's a different mic. He wasn't rude by any means, but he was like a little pissed off. Like, what the fuck? Can I not just get the glass? Like, why is it that big of a deal? So it was just and like every time we we would be like swirling, you know, our Maple Lee glasses, like, but I can't, I can't get the earthy tones of the of course we say it wrong, and then he gets pissed because we don't even say it right, and so but then that's also part of the funniness of it. You have to maybe you had to be there, it was really funny.

SPEAKER_03

Because you had to be there for the berating of Mike.

SPEAKER_02

It was so where does the egg come into the story?

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so this is when we're ordering drinks and stuff, or at some point.

SPEAKER_02

Well, then this is before Mike gets mad.

SPEAKER_05

No, that yeah, no, yeah, this is after. This is after. So then we have like a wait, the waiter, and like any like just like the week before or the couple nights before, when they find out that I don't have a partner, they're like the cooks are like trying to fuck you well or something, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, right. Allegedly.

SPEAKER_05

So at some point he put a piece of egg on my plate. It was like, don't eat it, let it cool. And I was like, Okay, so then he comes around and he is like rubbing the egg around my mouth. And what's he was singing a song?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I saw the you sent me the video.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I don't even remember when the song, but it went on for an oddly too long of a time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I could tell. So you sent me the video, and he was doing that, and there's a at some point in the video you could tell you kind of tried to pull away, and then he like pulled you back to him.

SPEAKER_05

And I could kind of tell, like, ooh, he's almost lucky that she didn't like he like pulled pushed my head back, so he's holding my head back and like rubbing this egg, which is honestly, I'm not, I do love a good omelet, but like eggs kind of freak me out, you know, if I think about it too much. So he's like rubbing this egg, and like for a second, it's like haha, funny, but like he did it for like an entire song, and I'm like, Okay, okay, I'm done.

SPEAKER_02

I could tell the video, I could tell, like there's a moment where it went from funny to like okay, okay, I'm done.

SPEAKER_00

Don't look egg all over my face. Yeah, like I was honestly grateful that was not me.

SPEAKER_02

And then honestly, when I saw the video, I I couldn't tell what was in his hand, and I thought it was uh as an appetizer, they do like uh like the fried vegetables or whatever, and it's like fried squash or fried zucchini or whatever the hell they serve you is. And I'm like, if that's fried zucchini, like she's probably internally pay panicking right now because she does not want to eat that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I mean, honestly, an egg is a close second, like could it should have been like a piece of chicken or shrimp or something. I don't know, but like it was just weird that it was egg. I don't I don't know. And it went on too long.

SPEAKER_02

He's trying to flirt, so I it didn't work. Getting egg rubbed on your body is not a no, it's not a turn on for you.

SPEAKER_05

But it was uh it was it was it wasn't raw egg, I guess. Yeah, I know it's cooked. Um, I feel like we all ate way too much this night. I don't know if what must have been like we I must have liked all the appetizers and everything because I was so full. So keep in mind, like we leave here, we're very full. It's like 10 o'clock at night, you know.

SPEAKER_02

It's glow night though.

SPEAKER_05

It's glow night.

SPEAKER_02

You better come running the party.

SPEAKER_05

I am sunburned so bad. And so we go out to glow. And it's I mean, honestly, it's it's a vibe, it's great. We're we're having fun. Mike was ready to go. He had had his two glasses of red wine or whatever, and the wrong glass. Well, some girl comes in and like snatches Mike up.

SPEAKER_02

Who was the scrum?

SPEAKER_05

She booked with us, she was one of our people.

SPEAKER_02

Our people, yeah. Not so many we know then.

SPEAKER_05

No, and they didn't say the whole week, they only say part of the week. Mike, what was your um interpretation? Yeah, this girl what happened from your end? But Mike was getting first of all, before he explains, Mike was getting down, like he was like, he had the arms, he had the legs go. I mean, he was living his best life. It was so fun. All of our friends were like standing back and watching him.

SPEAKER_03

Like, yeah, I don't know what about glow night, just I love it. Yeah, fun. Yeah, so how did this girl probably the four glasses of wine four glasses, Dan was two, and it was getting long glass?

SPEAKER_05

So how did this girl end up like basically on top of you? How did that I don't know?

SPEAKER_03

She just was there and I was there, and we were there, and did you grab her? I forget what happened, but we were just grabbing each other and like was there in the pool?

SPEAKER_02

Had you to talk to each other on the camera?

SPEAKER_05

Where'd you come from? I haven't seen you.

SPEAKER_00

She was little and very she was tiny and skinny, and I mean she was Mike's good size, and I'm like talking with her and like getting all like close and shit.

SPEAKER_03

And I'm like, Where's your man? And she's like, Over there, he doesn't do this. I said, Is he okay? I'm like, Yeah, she he's okay. Are you gonna take care of me? You're gonna watch, you're gonna be protect me. I'm like, I'll protect you, baby. Come on, let's go. And like, I guess her guy doesn't dance like that, he doesn't like engage with you know they grinded for 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_05

I was thinking his dick is gonna be raw because she had on like all a fist net dress, and I was like, grinding, and they were grinding. We were on Mike. Did you get a heart on?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, man. Of course I did.

SPEAKER_05

We were all dying because she like picked him out of the crowd and latched on. That was like her.

SPEAKER_02

So then you all went to the playroom.

SPEAKER_05

No, so okay, first of all, it was very, very hot.

SPEAKER_01

Mike's got a girl, like you gotta girl she got a wingman. He disappeared, she like just like faded into the game.

SPEAKER_05

She was there, and then she wasn't, and like I'm not saying she was on drugs because I don't she um she probably wasn't, but she was like an energizer bunny one. It's like she didn't stop moving the whole time.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, like she's been over like all fours, and like I was like, trying to stop and I was getting licking pussy, wasn't she licking pussy of another like girl? I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, she was wild. I mean, living her best life. What she's probably like a secretary or a librarian or something, like something real like normal at home, and then she got the video with the she's a principal, she like got the stars aligned, and but she was gone as quick as she just disappeared, yeah. Yeah, boom, where'd she go? So, and okay, so it was very hot, full bellies, sunburned. We were also standing right by the speakers, and in my opinion, they had it too loud, like yeah, like you had to move your body because it was like seriously hurting, like painful ears, you know. So at some point, Daphne and I went to the bathroom and then we sat at like one of the tables for a little while. Ever because we weren't the only ones doing it. People were like kind of stepping out, and like because I was so sunburnt and like so drained from the sun, I'm like, Y'all wanna go to bed?

SPEAKER_01

What time of night is it now?

SPEAKER_05

It's like 11:30, maybe tops. I don't I think our goal was to make it to midnight, and we didn't we didn't make it to midnight. Um, yeah, we weren't the only one. Uh so I had not made any TikToks or vlog. So there was like this glow backdrop, and I was like, okay, y'all wait right here for a minute because I gotta make it act like on the vlog that I've been partying, you know. Which I mean, I did say on my vlog we were going to bed early. So I went in front of that, did my vlog, did my thing, and then I came back and I'm like, okay, let's go. And we didn't but honestly, I was like really drained from the sun, you know. I think this is Tuesday. I mean, I had gotten up early. We had gotten up at like eight. That's early.

SPEAKER_02

That's early for you, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Um, so I was, I think we were all disapproved, and it sounded like from other people that we were not alone in that.

SPEAKER_02

I historically I can say that like everybody wants to party hard on glow night, and that does usually end up with usually not playroom time on glow night.

SPEAKER_05

But I enjoy kind of like what Mike was saying. But Blitz Cruise is the same way, it's my favorite just to dance and have fun. And I told you after the last blitz cruise that we should always plan on glow knot not to fuck and just party and have fun and then crash because I always hate getting pulled away to go fuck because it's just it's like the best party night. It's so fun.

SPEAKER_02

Agreed. Okay, I think we got time for one more day.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, we'll move along. Okay, so Wednesday slept in, got up, had breakfast, even though we were going to Lobster Island, but we went ahead and had breakfast, and we had to leave at 11. So our friend has a friend who knows the red hat guy, which I told him I'd give him a shout-out on the podcast.

SPEAKER_01

Red hat guy.

SPEAKER_05

Red hat guy. He is one of the drug dealers. Um, but he also he's a man of many talents. He also has a boat, he will take you places. He's been there every year that we're there.

SPEAKER_02

He's one of the guys that wanders the beach and can get you anything you want.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, he's a man of the house.

SPEAKER_02

Do you think he wanders the beach or he just has his boat?

SPEAKER_05

Um, I think he goes back and forth, but yeah, on the beach. He did say that he had not been busy that week. He was like, when I saw the three catamarans, I was like, I guess people weren't really buying drugs, which I mean I'm not mad about. I I don't I don't encourage I think I think buying drugs from the guy on the beach is a little scary, but you know, to each zero.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Um, so we went ahead and breakfast, so we met him down by the nude or the nude side. Of course, we got in trouble again. So Daffy forgot her armband.

SPEAKER_01

So her got her heatow armband.

SPEAKER_00

So my good armband. In my defense, they give me this armband that could have gone up here.

SPEAKER_03

Then you should have put it up there.

SPEAKER_00

Like it's it was so big that it literally would do this on my hands.

SPEAKER_01

She's just so widow and skinny, the armbands don't fit her. They don't have child-sized armbands at Edo.

SPEAKER_05

Cush it, Dan. So, but you weren't the only one, somebody else forgot there. So we got in trouble for security for that, and then like we are standing basically off property, and a lot of us were like looking at our phones or doing stuff, and the security was like, People are concerned y'all are taking pictures. You're making people uncomfortable. We were literally just standing there waiting on the boat, waiting on a boat, you know, to pull around.

SPEAKER_02

We actually were waiting on Daphne or Mike to get back on, he didn't run because I can remember last year they for some reason they had us like cross the fence into that other resort property just to get on the we were right about that.

SPEAKER_05

We were literally like one foot off from being off property, but like it wasn't even like anybody was posing, or like there, we have no desire to take pictures for anybody. So, anyway, we went ahead and got on the boat while we were waiting on Mike just because who are being assholes. So we got on the boat and then shortly after Mike came, and then we headed over to Lobster Island. The cool thing about the red hat guy is he basically like is our tour guide, yeah. So he took us um to so if you've ever been to lobster island, when you So explain what Lobster Island is a little bit. So it's okay. We also found out that it's also known as Booby Island. Booby, yes, why we're unsure.

SPEAKER_02

Did you ever because you maybe you can see Hito from there, so you can see Boobies?

SPEAKER_05

Maybe I don't know. My mother told me that yeah, but if you look on the map, it actually says Booby Island.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, if you I can see the Jamaicans being like that's Booby Island because you can see the crazy naked Americans from there or something like that.

SPEAKER_05

Makes sense. So uh lobster island is like a little island that is very close to the to the actual island of Jamaica, right? And it doesn't have any like permanent structures or anything like that. It's in what's the word inhabited.

SPEAKER_02

No, I don't it doesn't seem to be that anything.

SPEAKER_05

It doesn't seem like people live there, but there are people there, and basically we know it is lobster island, and you can go and they've kind of made these like makeshift like huts and stuff, and they'll catch you can get lobster, chicken, crab, shrimp, and they catch it fresh in the water, and they cook it under not the chickens, but yeah, and they cook it on open flame, like right there in front of you. Uh, no running water, it's a little scary, but also a pretty cool experience. They also have like fresh coconuts and pineapple and some souvenirs and stuff. I'm assuming everybody boats in every day, and there's lots of people there, even outside of like Hedope.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. It seems to be like a touristy kind of location where these little tour boats will bring you. I've also heard that it's not like sanctioned, it's like not an actual restaurant, it's not a registered restaurant or whatever. I don't think that Jamaica has probably not, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, they also will give you lobsters and stuff out of season, and they will try to like charge you more because it's out of season. So anyway, we went so we got off the boat, and then the red hat guy takes us like around the corner to like a better one. Yeah, it's not as much people, it's got like its own little private beach. It actually is perfect for us because we can take pictures, we can take new pictures, all of that, and we're not bothering anybody because because there are family places around, and there's actually like the worker, the the the guy who owns that little spot, his sons were there because he was teaching them how to, I guess, take over, you know. And I think it was Daphne or one of us was changing, and we were like trying to be careful because we didn't want to traumatize his kids, and he was like, Okay, they've been raised in Jamaica, they're very used to seeing like women's bread. Like, that's not in our culture. That is not an unusual thing. And we're like, well, in our culture, that is weird, you know, we don't feel comfortable doing it, so we were like trying to like hide and stuff, but so I've been to Louis Star Island, I think, like three or four times. That would Daphne might. This was y'all's first time. What did y'all think?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I thought it was a fun experience. Um, I was a little worried about the the surroundings, especially walking back. I could hear things crawling and jumping, and you're in the jungle, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because you basically have to to go to that secret spot that or whatever we call it, you do have to kind of walk you through the jungle, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there's like a trail, and I mean it's like anything could just like a snake could just snatch us.

SPEAKER_02

You think the condom is gonna jump out and take you away.

SPEAKER_00

I I was jump, I jumped a few times because there was stuff like like when I threw something and you didn't know I threw something.

SPEAKER_05

Well, it's Sean made like an amazing rattlesnake sound, like apparently that's a hidden tower. Me and Daphne both like jumped.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my gosh, it's scary.

SPEAKER_03

Like, there's no rattles on this island.

SPEAKER_00

We didn't know. I didn't know. I just hear something rustling in the in the what did you think about it?

SPEAKER_05

That anacondas, somebody that's from up north who loves a good lobster. What did you think about it? The lobster was delicious.

SPEAKER_03

I thought the lobster was great, yeah, and the crab was good that I was eating off of people's plates.

SPEAKER_05

Well, because like everybody got like uh a little bit like of everything, and so Mike cleaned everybody's plate. I got shrimp this time and they overcooked my shrimp. But it's okay. I mean, honestly, I should have got crab because the crab was the best, but I shared some of everybody's, so it was fine. Um, a few pro tips that we did this time. One was we bought bug spray at the um at the Hito store, which it was $22. So if you could bring some from home, you'll save a little bit. But that made a huge difference in our experience because last year we were eating a lot of bugs. There was also a really good breeze through there, and it honestly was one of my favorite experiences there.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Yeah, it was fun.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't use the bug spray and I didn't get any bugs, so that was in the breeze.

SPEAKER_02

So last year we like went and sat. They actually, and you said they weren't there anymore, but last year they had uh the picnic tables in the water that you could sit at that were like you know in the shallow water, uh, you could sit there and eat. And we went and sat at the picnic tables because when we were up in the jungle there, it was like they were eating our feet alive.

SPEAKER_05

But yeah, I mean it was it was a great time. I had a lot of fun. Everybody seemed to like it. So we took the boat back, which was nice. Um, because you know, a lot of people, if you're at Hito, a lot of people paddle board or canoe or kayak or whatever.

SPEAKER_02

It's a longer distance than it looks, so like you can see the island from the beach at Hito, but I we've had friends like they're like, Oh, we're gonna kayak over there and like come back and make it like a quarter away and then come back. That is way further than it looks, and it is, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but we did see one couple who did um kayak over there and they beat us back.

SPEAKER_01

Oh wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Remember, Lacey, they were getting they were pulling up as we were pulling up from the boat, so yeah, but they were tired and we were not.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. So we got back and we went to the room and Daphne and Mike wanted to stay in, but I huh for the night. No, just like because they were tired from going over there.

SPEAKER_02

They didn't want to go to the pool, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And they might have gone to the beach, I don't remember, but I did. Yeah, I wanted to go to the pool because the day before I had skipped because it was raining and I was so exhausted from the catamaran. So I was like, no, I need to go. So I went and I got trashed.

SPEAKER_02

I am noticing a trend. So every time Lacey gets left unsupervised, drunk.

SPEAKER_05

So um on the side of the pool, we did the YMCA, but with our legs. So my I was the V. So it was like every time it'd go, Y, yeah. No, yeah, that was a V. No, I was a Y. The Y. But it looks like a V. You know what I mean? So my legs, so we lay on our like backs, and so like it uh it was all of like it was me and a couple of our friends that we all did it, and then one girl just jumped over there, she wanted to be it, so she was the exclamation point, is what they said. Um, so at some point I was like, oh shit, I'm a little, I'm a little fucked up. So I knew I needed to eat, so I was like, I need to eat. Well, the next thing I know, I'm like trying to find our friend Stacy, because I'm like, maybe she'll go and like wait with me to get food, so I don't have to go by myself. Like, hey, she comes walking up with a cheese quesadilla. She had been gone and went and got I'm like, oh my god, thank you so much. So I ate the quesadilla.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, she went and got you food.

SPEAKER_05

She did. She must have realized that like I needed I needed food.

SPEAKER_02

So I'm like or did she get herself a quesadilla and you just ate it?

SPEAKER_05

No, I think she got it for me. I mean, I could be wrong, but I think she got it for me.

SPEAKER_02

So Yeah, I can see she went and got herself food. She kept walking up, you got me a quesadilla.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, it could have happened. I don't know. So at some point, I was like, I need you know, I I was like, I need to like go to the room. She was like, Well, you're not walking alone. And I'm like, I can walk alone. She's like, You're too famous to walk. I'm like, Stacey, I love you, but I'm not too famous to walk to my room alone. And so at some point, I which I have to tell another story in a minute, but let me at some point I was like, I'm gonna go to the bathroom. And they were like, okay. So I go to the bathroom and I get my shit and I like run out.

SPEAKER_02

So you dipped.

SPEAKER_05

So I dip, which I got really good at this. I was about to say, Lacey got good at dipping. Oh, I did. Because I hated to tell people, you know. But honestly, at this point, it's like five or six. Like it had gotten pretty late. Like I had been out there for like a couple hours. Um so I like dipped. But what I did was I FaceTimed you, which is probably a big no-no at Hito, but like I was super close to my face.

SPEAKER_02

I couldn't see anything but you.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. And I talked to you the whole way back. And I was like, I'm drunk. I fucked up. I miss you. I did so good. I did, you know, I'm like, I got a free butt plug. I didn't put it in. I got a shirt, you know, like I didn't do a whole I mean I just was like partying and stuff. So yeah, we got back to the room and I was FaceTiming Dan and Daphne's like, you told on me, you told on me. Well, then all of our friends started realizing that I they couldn't find me. So they started blowing my phone up because they're looking everywhere for me. And I'm like, whoops.

SPEAKER_02

I went to the you should have as soon as you dip, sent them a text.

SPEAKER_05

Well, but I was FaceTiming you. So what I did is I actually text as soon as I was texting in like the group chat, one of the wives messaged me on the side. I was like, Are you okay? Where are you? So it was like as I was sending it, is when they were like messaging me. Um one thing I wanted to mention that I didn't realize this trip is at Hito by the nude pool, there is a girls and a boys' bathroom. I've been going to Hito for like five years once a year, and every single time I've ever used the bathroom, I've used the boys' bathroom. So there's two urinals, and then each side there's like a stall. So I thought the urinals were for the boys, and then the stalls were for the girls. And every time I go, the guys are like more than happy. It's like an outdoor indoor bathroom, like it's not close up.

SPEAKER_02

The guys are like I feel like I mean, you are correct that there's you know gendered signs on those doors, but I don't think anybody really cares. So it's just like when we use the bathrooms and the playrooms, there's there's a boys and a girls, but honestly, I but I don't even know if those ones have signs on five years and not realize.

SPEAKER_05

So at one point I walked around like the backside, and I was like, Oh my god, there's a girls it's in the girls' bathroom, it's like more closed in. They have the good wipe so you can wipe your vagina, you know, after being in that pool. Like it has the good stuff. It took me that long to figure that out. I just thought you'd yeah, like that. So we went back to the room, you know. I said Daphne was like, You told on me to Dan. Um, so one of our Dan, you do a very good job of making sure everybody feels like included that booked with us and stuff like that. I'm not as good at it. It doesn't come naturally to me. So one of our friends was like, Lady, we need to have a dinner with everybody tonight, you know, even though we do have a dinner with a group, but and really anybody's invited, you just don't know that, right? You just kind of have to like tag along, you know. So I sent out a message, and because it was BDSM night, um, we and we wanted to watch the show. We um we had dinner at the buffet and watched, yeah, we we didn't get like a bunch of big tables, but we did get a quite a few little tables. It was hot as hell.

SPEAKER_02

We did so if you've never been to Hito before, so every night when you eat dinner, they do these little shows up on the stage. And honestly, especially when it's hot, the shows can become kind of repetitive. Like to me, they're wearing different outfits, but they're kind of doing the same stuff.

SPEAKER_05

The only one that's different is the BDSM.

SPEAKER_02

But by far the best show of the week is well, one probably the fire show and the BDSM are probably the two shows I would miss if I was at HEO. Uh, so you definitely want to hit the the BDSM show. That I mean, they've they are basically do everything but fuck on the stage, and they're pouring milk on each other and doing all that.

SPEAKER_05

Like have really good dancer bodies, like you know, really attractive people, and they're like, it's pretty, it's pretty sexy.

SPEAKER_03

Daphne's like putting me up on the stage.

SPEAKER_05

I know. At one point, I think I got a lap dance. I think Daphne went to the bathroom in the middle of it. One of those hot Jamaicans rubbed his whole body on me. Yeah. So after that, we went to the club. Now, this is the night that Daphne went from being okay to not okay really quick. So, first of all, we got like a drink, and every like we there was this one drink that we really liked called the sunset, and sometimes they'd make them and they'd be good, and sometimes they were just like way, they these were way too strong, way too sweet.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Hito wife has a habit of making drinks too strong, and I don't know if that's their way of like keeping you from coming back a lot and say, like, I'll just give you this strong drink, and then I won't have to serve you as much. Yeah, but uh they do make strong drinks, they do.

SPEAKER_05

So she was like, I can't, you know, I can't drink this. Is gross, and I'm like, okay, well, why don't you like put the drink down and let's just go get a shot of something? So then when you just take that shot instead of drinking the drink. So we go to the back and she orders two fireballs.

SPEAKER_03

I oh there's there's the downfall.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_05

Well, it was also we figured out later that she took some medicine that made her sleepy. We realized this tonight that she needed to wait till after she went out to take the medicine. But so we do think there was a medication thing in there, but yeah, so I think I took half of mine. You took the whole thing, and then you were drinking your drink.

SPEAKER_04

So she's gonna back up.

SPEAKER_05

So it was kind of my fault for telling her to do that, but I didn't I meant for her to like leave the drink. Yeah, yeah. So we're dancing, we're talking strong drink, very strong. Yeah, so we're dancing, we're having fun. This is the night of the stripper pole competition. So uh two of our friends entered, they actually tied, they both won, which was nice. And and then Juan Deepa gets up there and he DJs, which Dan was supposed to DJ with him, so that sucked, you know, that Dan wasn't there, but we did get to watch Ju Deepa. Well, at some point, Mike was like, I'm gonna go to the bathroom. And I'm like, okay, Mike walked off, and like I swear, I thought Daphne was going down. Like, like I was literally holding her body up, so I backed her up against a like wall, you know, to try to like support her weight. And then a couple of our friends were like, Let's take her outside and like sit her. There's because right by the pool, let's sit her by in one of those chairs while we wait on Mike. So we're out there waiting on Mike, somebody goes gets her water, and then Mike comes out there. And Mike, were you like, What the fuck?

SPEAKER_03

Is she in trouble? No, I was like, Well, typical Hito fashion, you're gonna roll her home.

SPEAKER_00

I do not remember the night, I do not remember anything past the the fireball shop, yeah, yeah. I do not remember the street, the the pole dancing. I don't remember was I there for the pole dancing?

SPEAKER_05

Yep, you were so because the next day you were like, Did they have the poll competition? I was like, Yeah, you were like, Who won? And I like told you, and then you're like, I was like, and and Juan Daddy's like, I missed him. DJ, like you weren't in there when he was up there. She had no memory of it at all.

SPEAKER_03

I was blocked out, so yeah, mind you that you know, the last keto trip, she had to be escorted home.

SPEAKER_05

They tried to put her in her wheelchair last time, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Last time or the security.

SPEAKER_05

That was a few years ago. So Micah Sean took you back to the room.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_05

Uh did she have any trouble? Like, were she able to walk? Did you have her any trouble?

SPEAKER_03

Were you guys on the first floor or second floor?

SPEAKER_05

Second floor.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah. So you had to go upstairs. She was kind of you know needing complete assistance.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's funny because Mike sent a picture to like our group chat and was like, keto got her, and she's like, ass out in her dress, or whatever. I don't know. I don't, yeah. She was knocked out. Yeah. So I ended up staying because it wasn't super late and I was having fun, and it kind of worked out good because about because like they probably weed in close to midnight. It's probably between 11:30 and 12. So it was get like everybody was like going to play and stuff. So I was in there and the topless travel girl that always takes the pictures and my you know, my frisky business, all of them they started taking pictures. So then, which I normally were gone to fuck. So I got to like take all the pictures and chat, and so we ended up getting like a lot of fun, you know, cool pictures. So I was and it was again, I feel like me being by myself, it kind of forced me to like talk to people and make friends and like push myself outside of my comfort zone. So then everybody is like, we're going to fuck. And then okay, I don't normally I haven't name-dropped in a while, but I'll say this like party mark was like, Hey, I'm going to the playroom. If you you should go, you know, and I'm like, okay, I knew good and well. And at this point, it is midnight, and I was a little worried to walk to the room by myself. I mean, not that Hito's not safe, it is, but it was really late, and I was alone, you know. And but luckily, our room was very, very close to the club. Like you could throw a rock and hit it. So I just kind of scurried to our room and you dipped. I dipped. He dipped once again.

SPEAKER_02

He dipped, you dipped, you dipped. Yeah. Because Hardy Mark was one of the ones on your list that you could Yeah, because I played with him in the past.

SPEAKER_05

So um and he has like a new girlfriend. I mean, she's lovely. I mean, like, I enjoy which we've had some f we were we were trying to play with them at Naughty. So we've had some like conversations. I would have enjoyed that. I just I didn't want to go by my like if Daphne and Mike were going, I probably would have gone, but I just didn't want to go by myself, you know. Like, and honestly, I could have called one of our friends or texted them and had them come walk me down there, but I just I was okay not going. It was late, I was tired, it was fine.

SPEAKER_02

All right, and then that ends. What night are we on?

SPEAKER_05

Now we're on that was Wednesday, so when we start uh next week's, we'll just have Thursday and Friday and Saturdays.

SPEAKER_02

Saturday is really a go home day, and then getting home on Saturday. That should wrap us up. Uh, you missed Daphne and Mike over here. Her her ring light died. Uh, they were uh getting a new ring light, and but they're set back up now. It was very inspicuous, nobody even noticed.

SPEAKER_05

Nobody saw it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, not at all. Lacey can't see you guys, so she's like she's no idea. That's good. So you guys were slick. Um, okay, so that's gonna wrap this episode, and then next week we will finish up Lacey's solo keto trip. Yeah, or I guess maybe we should call it the triad. Yeah, um the triad, yep. So it's a really solo. Uh so uh we'll be back for that. Uh if you want to go to hedonism with this little group here and have some fun, we are going back next year.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, the dates are July 24th through the 31st.

SPEAKER_02

And you can book that right now by going to Swingersociety.net.

SPEAKER_05

And it sells out uh relatively early every year, and then we have we can't get um more rooms, more rooms, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um is available, all that good stuff, right?

SPEAKER_05

And if you decide you want to book with us, um we really recommend that you go to our website. If you go just like in Google Heather, which listen, trust me, before we had a group, that's actually what I did. So I'm I get it. Um, but if you book with us, we get credit for it. And it really, it honestly it just kind of offsets what we pay because we also pay to go. Um, but you also get a swag bag from us that we've put a lot of work in. You get a name, but you get name necklaces with our uh logos, you get shirts, it put in the group chat, you'd be in all the group activities.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, if you're there that same week, we're we're more than happy to hang with you and party with you. But yeah, it does help if you guys does help.

SPEAKER_05

So we really appreciate it. Um, and and because we kind of co-host it with my frisky business, like if you call topless travel or kind of oh, sometimes that can get confusing as well. So if you could just use the link, then we know for sure that you're you're in with us.

SPEAKER_02

So all right. Anything else for the swing nation listeners? That's it, triad.

SPEAKER_05

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